Any connection with Borel?

No, and not a British design.

None that I am aware of David.

Farman Moustique 450 ?

Good call mate...yes it is the Farman 450 Moustique:ok:

Your control LM

Wasn't too bad once I discovered where you probably went......

Continuing with RRs' theme - another floatplane......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...29/indoors.jpg

A museum exhibit, or a hotel foyer! Looks like a bar in the background?

I'm allergic to the word "bar" at the moment!

Not a museum as far as I know - possible the factory.......

Going to have to go very soon....another French machine maybe?

Not French mate.

Good evening David, or maybe good morning :)

Glad to see a certain icon's gone!

Looks like it's been a good day on the thread, been too busy to participate, but did manage a peek or two during breaks!

Is your latest the first Loening M-2 Kitten fitted with the ABC Gnat twin for the US Navy, the floats look different to the photos on the web, but I suppose they could be semi-retracted to allow fitting aboard a submarine??

Evening...following on from Trevor's post, I would be tempted to say the Loening LS-1 or M-81 rather than the M-2. I only say that as the the M-2 appears to have rigging above the wings, whereas the aforementioned do not.

Good morning all. :)

There are different references as to which Loening model this was.

The LS1 appears to have been fitted with the longer flat Richardson floats.

However, it is indeed the Kitten, so I am happy to award the win to either Ken or Trevor - perhaps the first one of you to log in on the thread would be the fairest way.

Mornng David and thanks,

I thought it was the Kitten as the silhouete just seemed to cry out "Small"; the engines in the other similar model have ten times the power!

I'm just checking if the next one I have isn't on the list, then I'll put it up!

Here is the next Challenge! Not very good I'm afraid, but the original was small and low-res :O

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/.../TC-wtf170.jpg

Five minute coffee break.

A wing warp jobber?

I've got ten :p!

It certainly looks like a wing-warper; but then, according to my source, it was the first of four aeroplanes built in its home country by the same pair of brothers!

Blimey!! - I swear I heard a pin drop.

It's a little difficult to tell, but is this shoulder wing pylon-supported?

Two brothers eh. Just where to start - France circa 1913?

Henri and Maurice Farman?

'Tiz indeed quiet today, not seen any "names" on the board, hope it's nuffink I've said :ooh:!

The brothers are said to have followed the lines of the Blériot IX, so that fits in with what you say. They built this a bit sooner than you surmise, after destroying their Voisin biplane. They then built three other aircraft before fading into history, they are not in any way remembered in the manner of the Farman brothers!

Don't start in France, another continent another hemisphere, now famed for its clear dry atmosphere (some of it hasn't had rain for many, many years)

Omeegawd!

Not near Graeme is it?

Are you by any chance talking about Chile?

I am indeed mate, that's where they're building all the new big telescopes (up on the Atacama Desert)!

I guess that the brothers had their aerodrome rather nearer to sea level though!

So, the Atacama desert.

Looking at that area right now, but little coming up. :\

Indeed :E!! See my edit to last post, it may help you to know where to look ;)

Thanks mate.

Unfortunately it's gozome time. To be continued.........

Hate to come in when someone else has done all the work, but I think this is the Copetta Monoplane “El Burrito” of 1911. Chile does tend to make the search that little bit easier:)

Alas not!

Twenty minutes ago looked at Breguets.................................

Evening Gentlemen!

Last check on progress before going home!

Sorry David; Ken has got to it first! It is the Copetta Monoplane “El Burrito” of 1911

Skytrain10 has control :ok:

Sorry mate, but if you'd "Copy and pasted" one of my answers into goggle, it would have returned two Breguet hits on the first page (not on the images though) :E!

My Challenge intake is feeling lonely, Not the daddy of them all (although the Whittle wasn't really either), mine has a reasonably creditable title to be the daddy of at least a class of jet aircraft!

Catchya later :ok:

Thanks Trevor....a quick search Chile Monoplane 1911 (after trying 1912) revealed the answer.

Here's the next offering:

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/26fa7d6a.jpg

Morning Ken.

Do I see an Anzani?

Morning David....not an Anzani.

To help move things along, aircraft is European and designed for a special purpose.

Morning Ken,

A hasty coffee break and a quick question.

It seems to have that "Mailplane" look about it, is that worth pursuing?

Try and get back later but very hectic!

mmmm....

With a pilot on board methinks the CG would be quite a way aft, so I think something must have been carried forward of the cockpit.

TC has suggested mail - any future in ambulance?

I see what you mean, but no, not worth pursuing that particular line. Although it could have had a civil application the aircraft was designed for and used by the military.

A wild thought.

Did that forward fuselage contain a tank for liquid?

I'm intrigued by the pipe that runs from that area to the engine.

Nope, but it was made that way to accommodate something forward of the cockpit.

I was too, but so far have not found any reference to it. Perhaps a product of the design of the forward fuselage as a result of what it had to contain?

This is going to be a bad day!

Was that forward area pressurised, or perhaps heated?

I did previously suggest ambulance.

Sorry, miised your edit David. Yes, it was deisgned as an air ambulance, with accommodation for a stretcher patient forward of the cockpit:ok:

Edit: No reference to this that I can see.

Ah....- crossed posts.

I think it may be the Bloch MB-81 ??

Edited to say Bloch MB.80 Prototype, seems the 81 had closed cockpit according to Wikipedia!

Edit2 Could be either it seems from an image search :ugh:

Sorry, but it'll have to be an Open House if it is correct, as I got to go into a meeting in fifteen minutes and dunno when I'll get out!!

Rats..............