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SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 10:24

Morning Ken,

Coffee break; so I've just had a quick riffle through the sixties in my favourite non-specific country archive and found something that looks like it might fit, the Tom Storey Racer, Aka TSR.3 Wonder circa 1968 ??

Back to work now, so Open House please if correct, I'll try and get back at lunch time to see how things are going on :)!

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 10:46

Hi Trevor, yes it is the Storey TSR-3, designed by British air racer Tom Storey:D Just the one example built, G-AWIV remains current of the UK register today. Not sure if it is still flying....I last saw it in 2007.

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/c6923b46.jpg

SincoTC has declared Open House

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 12:54

Still my OH at lunchtime, not many players about again!

One hurriedly concocted silhouette: I will leave my light on and monitor as often as possible!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/.../TC_wtf189.jpg

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 13:07

Mmm, tail, aerial, wings resembles the Epic LT...but fuselage curvature doesn't match and suspect it is something altogether smaller. Is that a turboprop up front?

Thinking again, is it the Epic LT look alike, the Farnborough Kestrel?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7148/6...754bdcc9ea.jpg

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 13:45

It is a turboprop and there is a good reason why it bears a resemblance to the Epic LT but it is in fact slighty larger!

Edit:

As I typed this, you had a good second thought! :D

It is Richard Noble's Farnborough Aircraft Company F1, AKA Kestrel JP-10 and now under totally new ownership, just the Kestrel

KESTREL AIRCRAFT

skytrain10 has control

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 14:41

Coffee time,

Ken, I thought I'd put up a fresh post just in case you hadn't spotted my edit that gave you control, (after I spotted your second thought edit)! Although, that was before you added the image, so I guess you have seen it and are in the process of preparing another one while being "hampered" by having work to do :) !!

Oh well, back to work now, catchya later!

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 14:48

Thanks Trevor. I did see your edit but was tied up with work so couldn't react until now.

Incidentally the photo of the Kestrel was one I took at Bournemouth when it was visiting in 2007.

Here is the next challenge....this is how I used to draw aircraft when I was a kid - save for the fact I would put big engines on top of the tails! Nice to see one of the manufacturers take note:) Needless to say, a project!

http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/2fb5ec59.jpg

Lightning Mate 9th Jan 2012 15:55

Good afternoon Ken. :)

Is this thing the HyperMach SonicStar ?

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 16:17

Afternoon David:ok:.

HyperMach SonicStar
Very similar in design, but no connection that I can see. The challenge aircraft is an airliner concept as opposed to a business jet.

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 16:42

Evening Ken,

Is that the Boeing submission for Nasa's N+3 Program ??

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 17:02


Is that the Boeing submission for Nasa's N+3 Program ??
It is indeed Trevor - or perhaps I should say, one of their submissions:ok: .

Based on conceptual design studies, the team has recommended to NASA a fixed wing configuration (nicknamed Icon II) with V-tails and upper surface engines as the technology reference concept plane for N+3, said team leader Bob Welge of BR&T. The Icon II concept can carry 120 passengers in a two-class, single-aisle interior, and can cruise at Mach 1.6 to Mach 1.8 with a range of about 5,000 nautical miles.
http://i551.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/d6e1b8ad.jpg

SincoTC has control.

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 17:44

Thanks Ken,

Returning to the previous theme, but this one didn't get built!

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/.../TC_wtf190.jpg

Off home soon, will put my light on when I get home!

Noyade 9th Jan 2012 20:49

Evening Trevor.

I have mild tinnitus, but this doesn't ring any bells. Poor image to begin with = Russian?

(That NASA thingy - leading edges on each wing are different?)

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 21:02

Morning Graeme,


Poor image to begin with = Russian?
No mate, poor image = me sodding around to produce silhouette :O !!

That said, the image was fairly small and is of a model, but it's not Russian!

I think that the different L/E shape on that NASA thingy is a product of the kinked planform, dihedral and the angle of the view!

Karlark 9th Jan 2012 21:29

Good morning & evening

Even though it is not, it reminds me of the Wibault 368. If you have ever seen one of those. :)

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 21:51

Afternoon Karl,

As you say, it isn't a Wibault 368, but it does have quite a few features in common :)

Noyade 9th Jan 2012 22:18

So French?
Dewoitine maybe? They were into long snouts.

American? Northrop?

SincoTC 9th Jan 2012 22:45

Yes French, but not Dewoitine!

Noyade 9th Jan 2012 22:52


I think that the different L/E shape on that NASA thingy is a product of the kinked planform, dihedral and the angle of the view!
Hmmm.....

One day while doodling at the NASA design office....

"Hey Bob, check this one out."
"Idiot, you drew the leading edges differently!"
"She's good, on one will notice."

Did the French firm make any other racers? This is a racer I presume?

skytrain10 9th Jan 2012 23:01

Evening Trevor/Morning Graeme. Looking in before hitting the hay...Couzinet C.150 I believe?

If correct Open House as nothing prepared and tired!

Night night


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