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Lightning Mate 7th Nov 2011 14:46

Any connection with Borel?

skytrain10 7th Nov 2011 15:22


Bristol Swallow mate?
No, and not a British design.


Any connection with Borel?
None that I am aware of David.

Lightning Mate 7th Nov 2011 15:31

Farman Moustique 450 ?

skytrain10 7th Nov 2011 15:38


Farman Moustique 450 ?
Good call mate...yes it is the Farman 450 Moustique:ok:

Your control LM

Lightning Mate 7th Nov 2011 15:45

Wasn't too bad once I discovered where you probably went......

Continuing with RRs' theme - another floatplane......

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/u...29/indoors.jpg

skytrain10 7th Nov 2011 15:53

A museum exhibit, or a hotel foyer! Looks like a bar in the background?

Lightning Mate 7th Nov 2011 15:58

I'm allergic to the word "bar" at the moment!

Not a museum as far as I know - possible the factory.......

skytrain10 7th Nov 2011 16:04

Going to have to go very soon....another French machine maybe?

Lightning Mate 7th Nov 2011 17:00

Not French mate.

SincoTC 7th Nov 2011 21:45

Good evening David, or maybe good morning :)

Glad to see a certain icon's gone!

Looks like it's been a good day on the thread, been too busy to participate, but did manage a peek or two during breaks!

Is your latest the first Loening M-2 Kitten fitted with the ABC Gnat twin for the US Navy, the floats look different to the photos on the web, but I suppose they could be semi-retracted to allow fitting aboard a submarine??

skytrain10 7th Nov 2011 22:39

Evening...following on from Trevor's post, I would be tempted to say the Loening LS-1 or M-81 rather than the M-2. I only say that as the the M-2 appears to have rigging above the wings, whereas the aforementioned do not.

Lightning Mate 8th Nov 2011 07:15

Good morning all. :)

There are different references as to which Loening model this was.

The LS1 appears to have been fitted with the longer flat Richardson floats.

However, it is indeed the Kitten, so I am happy to award the win to either Ken or Trevor - perhaps the first one of you to log in on the thread would be the fairest way.

SincoTC 8th Nov 2011 08:05

Mornng David and thanks,

I thought it was the Kitten as the silhouete just seemed to cry out "Small"; the engines in the other similar model have ten times the power!

I'm just checking if the next one I have isn't on the list, then I'll put it up!

Here is the next Challenge! Not very good I'm afraid, but the original was small and low-res :O

http://i1138.photobucket.com/albums/.../TC-wtf170.jpg

Lightning Mate 8th Nov 2011 09:44

Five minute coffee break.

A wing warp jobber?

SincoTC 8th Nov 2011 09:51


Five minute coffee break
I've got ten :p!

It certainly looks like a wing-warper; but then, according to my source, it was the first of four aeroplanes built in its home country by the same pair of brothers!

Lightning Mate 8th Nov 2011 14:09

Blimey!! - I swear I heard a pin drop.

It's a little difficult to tell, but is this shoulder wing pylon-supported?

Two brothers eh. Just where to start - France circa 1913?

Henri and Maurice Farman?

SincoTC 8th Nov 2011 14:55

'Tiz indeed quiet today, not seen any "names" on the board, hope it's nuffink I've said :ooh:!

The brothers are said to have followed the lines of the Blériot IX, so that fits in with what you say. They built this a bit sooner than you surmise, after destroying their Voisin biplane. They then built three other aircraft before fading into history, they are not in any way remembered in the manner of the Farman brothers!

Don't start in France, another continent another hemisphere, now famed for its clear dry atmosphere (some of it hasn't had rain for many, many years)

Lightning Mate 8th Nov 2011 15:01

Omeegawd!

Not near Graeme is it?

Lightning Mate 8th Nov 2011 15:13

Are you by any chance talking about Chile?

SincoTC 8th Nov 2011 15:24

I am indeed mate, that's where they're building all the new big telescopes (up on the Atacama Desert)!

I guess that the brothers had their aerodrome rather nearer to sea level though!


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