What REALLY Happened To Nigger?
 

Hi all,

im currently collating a story, for the magazine i am editor of trying to find out what really happened to Guy Gibson's dog, nigger.

there are a few things that baffle me about the official story though, and i was wondering if any of you guys had heard rumours/stories circulating which could help me unravel it a bit more.

heres what gets me :

The official story says that nigger was killed by a car that didnt stop outside the gates at Scampton on the day of the Ruhr valley raids.

Now, as im sure you all know, military instillations are "locked down" before any movement, in this case, a top secret raid, with nobody going out, and nobody coming in, so HOW did nigger get on to the road in front of the gates to be killed?

There are rumours going around about nigger being murdered to affect morale, but this would be under the assumption there was a saboteur or enemy agent IN Scampton at the time.

Also, another rumour say he was killed deliberately by a member of the aircrew, because he had a habit of "splashing" anything lower than a squadron leader, and instead of being buried by the mess, he was tossed into a ditch and had the "splashing" reciprocated by the aircrew....

Anyone know of any rumours/stories etc that could add any creedence to any of this?

Slainte!

Tam

If you understand that "locked down" means something along the lines of a chain link or solid gate from ground level upwards, I think you are under a misapprehension.

The gate would probaby have been nothing more than the usual swinging barrier arm, with a guard in attendance to prevent human and vehicle exit.
It would not have stopped nigger from just walking under it.

I really must protest at this blackening of the reputation of a famous aviation dog and sod the PC brigade who want his name deleted.

Chevvron. Hear Hear.

A search on our archives will reveal much about what happened to 'Nigger' but I am sure you will also get some later info.

Oh dear! Can't wait to see where this goes :E

Bob C

The stupidity of this thread makes me laugh ..... I stayed in a resort last July, the resort's owners had a 5 month young dog that, one evening, decided it wanted to shag my leg.

Should I have reminded that dog that this was a 'lock down' thus no shagging of my leg was allowed? :)

A thread I started on the Cabin Crew forum a couple of hours ago has been closed by a moderator. I have no idea why except that it could be taken as being critical of CC behaviour I encountered on a recent flight.
This thread contains a term of racial abuse in its title. Yes, I realise the word was a name given to a dog probably because of the colour of his coat. However, that does not change the fact that the word has been used to insult, deride and belittle black people. Some members of Pprune may well have suffered abuse of this nature. No matter what the context this word should not be used. I'm not suggesting the thread should be closed or deleted. However, it should be edited to remove this offensive word.

It's not an offensive word. It's a name. Used in a different context it could be offensive.

The name 'Concha', which is a frequently used female name in Spain, is a very vulgar word in South American slang for the female genitalia. Nobody considers it offensive in the right context.

(I just avoided falling into the trap of saying it's a common woman's name in Spain!)

ff2..............

Please tell me you are joking?!!!

Planemike

And rewrite history to satisfy the sensibilities of a few? Reading a biography the other day about a chap who was of a gay nature. Should the book be rewritten so as not to cast a modern day implication to the mans character, since the book was written circa 1940? I'm sure his family would choke on todays interpretation.

"This thread contains a term of racial abuse in its title"

OFFS:ugh:

Black Lab
 

<<<"This thread contains a term of racial abuse in its title">>

Bull, it contains the name of a black Labrador dog killed prior to a very important operation.

frequentflyer2: If the thread title is edited to remove the word you find so offensive, it will now read " What REALLY Happened To ?".
Is that what you want ?

There was a huge fuss several years ago in the U. S., can't remember the exact circumstances or context, but a newspaper op-ed writer--as I remember--used the perfectly valid word "niggardly," meaning stingy, and the scheiss hit the impeller...

I have always understood the word nigger to refer to the colour black in an artists palette. I think it is incredibly racist of frequentflyer2 to to see it purely as referring to a person with a dark coloured skin.

I read somewhere recently that golliwogs have been reprieved. Does this mean that my Robertson jam mementoes can see the light of day again.

My friends have an alsation dog. I think that is racist, naming a breed of dog after people from Alsace and Lorraine. Imagine do my friends have no shame. :\

Then we have pekinese dogs, should they now be called Beijinganese, and should the chinese people be allowed to object. :*

As for Guy Gibson's dog, let him lie in peace. His master and colleagues were instrumental in saving many thousands of allied lives. If I had a black dog I would be proud to call it Nigger.

Everyone settle down and have a nice, cool cheese sandwich.
Here's the cheese we often recommend in Australia ...

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/hs...12/20/coon.jpg

(Not joking! We really do have a very popular cheese by that name)

It Does Not Stop There
 

When ITV screened the Dam Busters film, at the appropriate moment there is 'peep', so perhaps the dog's name was really Peep - said in a sort of screamy voice.

Remember the Robertson's jam jar label?

Don't do as I once did in the USA and talk about 'fag packet design' - it took me longer to get out of the 'outrage' caused than it did to cover the topic about which I was talking.

Watch out in Canada - it's now 'first nations' when discussing the early inhabitants.

My first dog, bought for me in February 1953, was a black cocker spaniel called - no not Cock - but 'Blackie'. The name was perfectly acceptable and there was never any offence given or taken. The PC claptrap (please note 'clap' is not used in this context in relation to a social ailment) is ruling every aspect of our life and should be resisted.

I don't believe there is anything really sinister about the dog's death. If there had been, it would have come out long before now and been substantiated. If there was foul play, Gibson was not the sort of man who would let it rest, so unless the culprit was killed on the raid, I think we would have heard more about it in the contemporary accounts.

O-D = (Just off to walk a pair of Bl:mad:k and Gold German Shepherd Dogs - soon to have the 'Alsation' part of the name removed by popular demand of the Breed Council)

FF2 : Think yourself lucky you don't work in Svaginahorpe, Lincs, as a nightwatchman.

In the meantime, highly pigmented rap musicians refer to their music style commonly as "nigger music".

Out of interest, does anybody know anybody who is, well, black, who gives a damn about the fact that GG's dog was called this, or is it just a selection of overly-sensitive white liberals?


A former girlfriend of mine, black and a very well respected schoolteacher (still is for that matter - a schoolteacher that is, not my girlfriend) used to get very frustrated when people tried to call blackboards chalkboards in front of here. "Look, it's a board, it's black, black is a colour, it applies to me as well - get over it" was roughly how she usually put it.

G