I went into a camera shop, in fact as it's good publicity for their service I'll mention the name, a branch of Jessops, where one of the salesmen was particularly helpful.

Next day I went to make purchases worth almost £1000 based on the help that this man had given me, so I wanted him to get the commission or recognition for having been so helpful. He wasn't there, so I told the girl behind the counter that I was looking for the 'black gentleman' (and he was black, not brown or 'tanned!) who helped me the day before.

"We don't have any black people here" she said. I began to wonder if I was losing my marbles and had been at another branch, but I stood my ground, and eventually she said : "Well we have Mr ....... who is Afro-Caribbean".

Then there was the time I reported a persistently unpleasant woman in a fast food outlet to the head office. The last straw for me was when she was abusive to a small boy who was a few pence short of the money for his order and snapped at me when I gave him the coins. She refused to give me her name so I wrote on the report: "The black lady".
The reply I got said : "We are not taking this matter any further as we believe that your report is racially motivated.

FFS!!Some people neeed to seriously grow up and get out more.

A while back there was a move to bring back the Black and White Minstrel show on TV. I filed an objection - never seen white minstrels looking anything like that. :}

Meanwhile, Nigger's fate remains a mystery - most profound thread drift for a while!:hmm:

I am surprised that the spolling pelice haven't jumped on this one. The OP claims to be the editor of a magazine. If his punctuation and spelling reflects the quality of this journal, it can't be a very serious one.

I had a black son-in-law for 10 years. I used to tell him racial jokes all the time [with no nasty intent, as he well knew]. He thought they were hilarious, and pointed out that black people are perfectly happy to be called black, but nobody seems to ask THEM if they mind!!!.

'Out of interest, does anybody know anybody who is, well, black, who gives a damn about the fact that GG's dog was called this, or is it just a selection of overly-sensitive white liberals?'

There was one allegedly. Caused a big explosion of opinion over on the military forum a few years ago when it was reported that a painting of a certain Wing Commander and his dog was taken down from it's place of honour in the Officer's Mess after a complaint.

Or maybe history has been re-written and this never really happened!:ugh:

Dr Coon loves his cheese.....me too!

PC is so much BS. The "F" word and others seem to be quite OK with the hairy arm pitted brigade but not a black dogs actual name. My rugby hero as a kid was a guy called "Nigger" Brown. They even named the city football stadium stand after him. Fast forward 40 years and some **** comes along and wants it changed. Mr Brown was only ever known by his nick-name!

Gravity doesn't exist, the earth sucks!:D
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To suggest an answer to the question
 

What REALLY Happened To Nigger?
I think he is playing the bone in Louis Armstrong's Celestial Hot Five

Would I not be right in saying that 'nigger' (lower case) was a derisory term used in the southern USA to describe a slave, whereas 'Nigger' (upper case) is/was a common name for an animal with a black coat; certainly I can remember the horse used by the local Co-op for deliveries to my home in the '50s being called Nigger.

I don't know how to do the linky thing but could I point any interested parties to the YouTube clip, "Why I hate niggers" by Chris Rock (who is himself non reflective).

I wonder if we should attach any significance to the fact the OP has not returned to the thread and joined in the debate?

Planemike

As an aside, why do we talk about printing in black and white when it's really only black?

STOP PRESS - STOP PRESS!!!

It's just been announced that in the new version of The Dam Busters film, the one where the well known military aviation historian; Stephen Fry, has been entrusted with the script, the dog will be a female of the species (usually referred to as a B:mad:h). It's name is to be NIGELLA.

O-D

This is the same type of PC lunacy as this ... which I have posted before :

I took my godchildren to see the production of The Railway Children at Waterloo Station. It was outstanding and I can recommend it to anyone.

Political correctness, as always, dictated that a percentage of black people be included, despite the fact that this detracted from the reality and was totally out of context.

Albert Perks (the station master) and his wife were played by white people, but one of their three children was black. Much to my amusement, the small child behind us said loudly to his mother : "Mummy if those people are white how come one of their children is black."

Kids are not stupid!

I suspect the old chap from Northamptonshire already knew ...

Acronyms for PC are fair game in my book. However Gibson would never have got 617 after 1997.
His choice of name for his dog 'could have been offensive to someone' ....I very much doubt any black person would 'genuinely' be offended.

Which brings us back to the - miserable? - PC merchants.

If it is considered to be acceptable to call Gibson’s dog by his original name, what does the team think about the recent furore on the other side of the pond about intentions to produce versions of Huckleberry Finn with not only the word ‘nigger’ removed from the text but also the word ‘injun’?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/books/07huck.html

Is it appropriate that youngsters should grow up being protected from the truths, however unpleasant, about their own country?

If so, where then does one draw a line?

Do the same people who answer the above question with a resounding ‘yes’ think also then that the Germans should therefore remove from their education syllabus the compulsory teaching of children about their recent ancestors’ involvement in such matters as the Final Solution?

And how might they respond to the fact that very few young Japanese have ever been taught about the most dubious behaviour of their country through the first decades of the 20th century?

Come to that, what should best be done with regard to teaching English and American students (among others), about the comparative realities of involvement of their own countries and the Soviet Union in WWII? That’s not the Hollywood version of events but rather the actual history of a conflict in which the two former nations sacrificed approximately 400,000 lives apiece while the later lost more than 20,000,000…

Doesn’t ‘our’ system of Civilidsation absolutely rely upon the strength of a Justice meted out by the use of the term ‘The Truth, the Whole Truth and nothing but the Truth?

Sorry for those of you who dislike thread drift. Quite an achievement I reckon to get from considerations of the name of a dead dog to considerations of what amounts to Civilisation in half a page…

Strictly speaking Genghis, Black is a tone, not a colour. Leastways, s'wot our art teech used to tell us constantly, what with it being a lack of reflection as opposed to a combination of materials emitting colour to form new colours.

Forgive me if I am wrong, but I believe that if Guy Gibson's dog hadn't been called what he was called, you wouldn't be writing a magazine article about him.

It is an offensive word, regardless of what some people,on this forum seem to think. I get the impression that some people love slipping the subject of Guy Gibson's dog into a conversation because it gives them an excuse to use that particular word.

I probably won't bother reading the rest of this thread as I can already guess I'm going to get a right slagging-off. You can call this post 'politically-correct BS' if you want. I call it being respectful.

Then perhaps you can forgive some of us for appearing normal.