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twochai 13th Aug 2008 11:31

I was thinking the aircraft was earlier than the late 1940s and early 1950s.

What was Chase thinking when they designed foot tall throttles with two inch high secondary control levers?? This was the first powered aircraft they had built so perhaps they wanted to make sure the pilot couldn't forget they were there??

pigboat 13th Aug 2008 13:07


What was Chase thinking when they designed foot tall throttles with two inch high secondary control levers??
Didn't want you to miss the Mixture-Pitch-Power part of the single engine drill? :p

India Four Two 13th Aug 2008 18:02

Single-engined, strange mixture of instruments, Finnish placards - either a Finnish homebuilt, possibly aerobatic aircraft or a very odd restoration of a Finnish military aircraft.

MReyn24050 13th Aug 2008 18:32

Mel's Challenge
 
Well India Four Two with all that information you should be able to finish this one off very quickly.Except I do not believe this aircraft saw military service :ok::)
Mel

evansb 14th Aug 2008 04:54

Heinonen HK-2 Valkuainen ?

MReyn24050 14th Aug 2008 09:06

Mel's Challenge
 
Sorry Bri, not the Heinonen HK-2 Valkuainen.
Mel

S'land 14th Aug 2008 10:16

Valmet Vihuri VH-9?

MReyn24050 14th Aug 2008 11:28

Mel's Challenge
 
Sorry S'land, Not the Valmet Vihuri VH-9.
Mel

India Four Two 15th Aug 2008 16:19

I think I can 'finish' it off now
 
I had looked at PIK before, based on what looks like a Winter variometer, rather than a VSI, but I obviously didn't dig deep enough.

A PIK-11 Tumppu, OH-YMC to be precise: Photos: PIK-11 Tumppu Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

What a nice looking little aircraft. Quite a Mustang feel to it, even more so in this silver example: Photos: PIK-11 Tumppu Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net

MReyn24050 15th Aug 2008 16:25

Mel's Challenge
 
India Four Two I knew you could "Finnish" it off. As you say it is indeed the PIK-11 Tumppu.:ok:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ft/0425277.jpg
You have control

India Four Two 15th Aug 2008 16:29

Thanks Mel. The Tumppu seems to have more than just looks. I came across this quote from the Finnish owner of a PIK 26:


One experienced British second WW ace once said: 'I have been flying in my whole career two very nice airplane, other one was Spitfire and other was PIK-11 'Tumppu'.
Standby while I see if I have any unused cockpits left.

India Four Two 15th Aug 2008 16:50

Found one:

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...pit15Aug08.jpg

Wanderin_dave 17th Aug 2008 07:34

CT-4 Airtrainer?

sycamore 17th Aug 2008 16:43

Something from Cesspit?

evansb 19th Aug 2008 21:00

I wonder where Simon (India Four Two) is? I agree with Wanderin dave's answer, but how long do we wait for Simon's confirmation?

evansb 20th Aug 2008 23:24

It seems obvious Simon (India Four Two) is unable to confirm Wanderin dave's response. In the interest of keeping the thread moving, could Wanderin dave please post a cockpit photo, or if unable, could you declare an open house while we await Simon's return?

Bri

Wanderin_dave 20th Aug 2008 23:33

Sorry guys, been out of high tech areas.
Can't believe i actually got one!
Open house!!!

India Four Two 21st Aug 2008 09:09

Sorry chaps. I've been in Fragrant Harbour for the last five days and for reasons too tedious to relate, I have been offline.

Wanderin_dave is correct. It's a CT-4
ADF Serials - A19 AESL CT-4A Airtrainer

I'm not sure if this is a CT-4A or a CT-4B. From what I've read they are basically the same aircraft, just manufactured at different times.

As Wanderin_dave said, it's OPEN HOUSE.

MReyn24050 22nd Aug 2008 13:28

Next challenge
 
Here is the next challenge, as you will see a nice easy one.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...pitquiz331.jpg
Mel

evansb 23rd Aug 2008 02:06

A reverse engineered Siebel Si-202 ?

MReyn24050 23rd Aug 2008 11:56

Mel's Challenge
 
Hi Bri, depends who copied whom. Very similar aircraft but this one flew before the Siebel Si-202.
Mel

MReyn24050 24th Aug 2008 11:55

Updated What Cockpit List
 
I have updated the list of cockpit challenges published to date. See the What Cockpit,Which Aerodrome and What Silhouette Sticky.
Mel

evansb 24th Aug 2008 14:50

Is the aeroplane powered by a Walter Micron engine?
Is it the RWD-16 ?

MReyn24050 24th Aug 2008 20:35

Mel's Challenge
 
Well, I thought this would go fairly quickly some 250 viewers but only Bri with a possible. No, sorry Bri it is not the RWD-16 nor was it powered by a Walter Micron engine. It was a British aircraft and had a Blackburn Cirrus Minor engine. It was also a rarity.

windriver 24th Aug 2008 23:05

Vef L12 ....?

evansb 25th Aug 2008 02:23

The C.W. Swann? (Which later evolved into the GAL.42 Cygnet II ):confused:

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 08:45

Mel's Challenge
 
Sorry chaps, neither the Vef L12 nor the C.W. Swann.
Mel

Planegill 25th Aug 2008 10:48

Comper Mouse?

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 11:50

Mel's Challenge
 
Sorry Planegill not the Comper mouse.
mel

evansb 25th Aug 2008 15:42

This is clearly turning into one of Mel's "easiest" challenges yet!

Question: Did the company that produced the mystery aeroplane also produce aircraft during WW.II ?

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 16:07

Mel's Challenge
 

This is clearly turning into one of Mel's "easiest" challenges yet
Well perhaps I was being a bit optimistic when I said it was easy.


Did the company that produced the mystery aeroplane also produce aircraft during WW.II ?
I am unable to confirm that Bri. However, I will say that this aircraft was a one off and had a unique wing contruction.
Mel

evansb 25th Aug 2008 17:27

Chrislea Airguard ?

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 17:36

Mels Challenge
 
Not the Chrislea Airguard Bri, the challenge aircraft flew a year earlier. Have you sussed the latest aviaquiz yet?
Mel

evansb 25th Aug 2008 18:54

Mel, I've exhausted my sources for your challenge. Surely some chap with an attic full of dusty Aeroplane Monthly magazines will eventually come up with an answer, alas, it won't be me. Now, back to the Avia Quiz...

Bri

S'land 25th Aug 2008 21:35

Not sure of the date, but how about the Aero Research Snark?

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 21:41

Mel's Challenge
 
Sorry S'land it is not the Aero Research Snark.
Bri said

Mel, I've exhausted my sources for your challenge. Surely some chap with an attic full of dusty Aeroplane Monthly magazines will eventually come up with an answer,
Sorry about that Bri, the answer could also be found in the Putnam Volumes of British Civil Aircraft.
Mel

windriver 25th Aug 2008 22:42

Can we rule out General Aircraft & Miles?

MReyn24050 25th Aug 2008 23:46

Mel's Challenge
 
windriver, yes we can rule out out General Aircraft & Miles. This aircraft was the only aircraft the company built.
To recap it was British and was built around 1937 it was a one off and had a unique feature regarding the construction of the wing. It was powered by a Blackburn Cirrus Minor engine.
Mel

S'land 26th Aug 2008 09:19

Let's try the Deekay Knight with its plastic wing structure.

RETDPI 26th Aug 2008 11:42

For Bri's benefit the Deekay Knight article starts on p276 of Aeroplane Monthly May 1977 ( and includes the quiz piccie)
Yes, I did look it up afterwards!
Geoff


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