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Kitbag 15th Feb 2008 15:35

Wild guess- Northrop YC125 'Raider'?

See here http://www.airbornegrafix.com/Histor...ings/YC125.htm

MReyn24050 15th Feb 2008 18:01

ozbeowulf's challenge
 
Kitbag, A pretty good wild guess I would say.
Mel

ozbeowulf 15th Feb 2008 19:26

Excellent work, Kitbag! :ok:

It is the Northrop YC-125, not the ugliest aircraft ever built, but surely on the short list.

http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08075/wotzit_12pic838.jpg

You have control....

Agaricus bisporus 15th Feb 2008 19:34

Ugly? Right up there with its immediate contemporary, the Twin Pioneer which it so closely resembles in task and looks.

mustpost 15th Feb 2008 20:17

Agaricus bisporus- Twin Pioneer
 
Er..off thread and no jetblast stuff here, but my bro/inlaw's late father was an important player in the design and development of said Twin Pioneer (ie he was v. significant....) Not ugly - it worked. Nice one in East Fortune Museum of Flight - not re-painted. :)
Kitbag, good shout, well done for Northrop, but who was the Lockheed designer they obviously poached for the panel design around the same time? :confused:

ps ozb thanks for a good challenge

Kitbag 15th Feb 2008 20:26

Thanks for the very undeserved accolades-as usual with me I just happened to come across a similar illustration.

I do not have anything prepped- so Glenn or anybody else get posting

Regards

Kb

mustpost 15th Feb 2008 20:37

Sorry if it's been done, I will check and replace
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...st/cockpit.gif

MReyn24050 15th Feb 2008 21:40

mustpost's challenge
 
Good find. Check PMs,this has not been done before.
Mel

Kitbag 15th Feb 2008 22:45

PZL Koliber 160A? See here, I think its relevant http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/publicati...cfm?view=print

If correct, just to keep things moving its open house, but I would still like Glenn to put something up;)

ozbeowulf 16th Feb 2008 00:56

Mustpost's challenge...
 
Kitbag, I agree with you re the PZL Koliber 160A (found a pic of the same cockpit) and I do have an interesting (I hope) challenge ready to go.

I hate to jump in, though, until Mustpost acknowledges your answer is correct.

Glenn

mustpost 16th Feb 2008 07:23

Aarghh..you're all too clever for me :ugh:woke up this morning to find my cunning test undone within minutes. Congrats to Mel and and Kitbag and Glenn, so taking all on board let's have it Glenn. It is indeed a Koliber 160A:D
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...t/Koliber2.gif

Flew in one of these in France as a Moraine Salnier Rallye when I were a lad ....

ozbeowulf 16th Feb 2008 07:49

The Next Challenge....
 
Here's a change of pace...

This cockpit belongs to a particular model of an aircraft. Other versions of the aircraft had the same maker's name and general designation, but here a specific designator is needed also, for reasons that define the essence of this bird.

On a personal note, I have a very tenuous connection to this aircraft type because an important part of it was also represented in a very different type of machinery important to me at one time.

Again, apologies for the small size of the photo. Enlarging it diminishes the definition.


http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08076/wotzit_13562.jpg

ozbeowulf 16th Feb 2008 12:52

Five hours without a response to the challenge doesn't stop me from thinking several of you will come up with the correct answer any minute now.

Even so, it's getting late here in Oz. I'll be back on deck, ready to respond, after a night's sleep.

Cheers,

Glenn

mustpost 16th Feb 2008 17:27

Hmm - I'll try - wasn't converted to a watery thing was it? :ouch:

ozbeowulf 16th Feb 2008 20:11

Good morning, Mustpost...

No watery connection that I can think of. Definitely a flying machine.

MReyn24050 16th Feb 2008 20:55

ozbeowulf's challenge
 
Would the words "travel" by "air" have any connection with this aircraft?

ozbeowulf 16th Feb 2008 21:08

Only in the normal sense, Mel. Not a TravelAir aircraft. Sorry.

Planegill 17th Feb 2008 07:46

Looks like the Arrow Sport F? (The control wheels and arrangement are the same anyway.) Did this have a Ford engine?

ozbeowulf 17th Feb 2008 08:21

Spot on, Planegill! You have control.

http://xs224.xs.to/xs224/08076/wotzit_13_full675.jpg

Details at: http://www.aerofiles.com/_al.html

The Arrow Sport F was a 1935 project to explore the use of automotive engines in aircraft. And yes, David, the "F" was for Ford; a liquid-cooled 82hp flathead Ford V-8. That basic powerplant was identical to the V-8 in my first car... a 1940 Mercury coupe that cost me $75 in 1956.

Old Rhinebeck has a converted engine on display at...

http://www.oldrhinebeck.org/collecti...0Model%20F.htm

Don't miss the part about how they started the engine!

You guys are just too good! Ah, well, I got just on 24 hours out of it...:)

Glenn

mustpost 17th Feb 2008 18:26

Challenge
 
Planegill - please post you -you - you wxnner- I'm having withdrawal symptons :}
Cheers M


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