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India Four Two 16th Dec 2010 05:11

Time for some clues.

Similarities with the Fly Baby - low-wing open-cockpit monoplane with external bracing wires, taildragger, fixed-pitch SE.

Differences - radial engine. Needs a BIGGER hangar.

India Four Two 16th Dec 2010 08:01

Re-reading my clues, I see that I might be accused of misleading you all, so delete the word "monoplane" and in the Differences line, add "and one other, LARGE difference".

RegDep 16th Dec 2010 09:41

Sounds like a Stipa Flying Barrel re-incarnation.....:ooh:

India Four Two 16th Dec 2010 14:31

Nice try, RegDep, but I meant large as in size, not volume.

You need a hangar with a door 30 feet wide to store this aircraft.

India Four Two 17th Dec 2010 11:12

Another clue:

The lady by the wingtip might be looking up at a passing aircraft or she might be looking at part of this aircraft.

RegDep 17th Dec 2010 11:51


You need a hangar with a door 30 feet wide to store this aircraft.
OK, My next question/comment would be "how high?". 30 ft is not so much BIGGER than the 28 ft needed for Baby when its wings are not folded. And you removed "monoplane" from your clues but left low-wing. So what is up there for the lady to gaze? A LARGE blimp?

(Edit to say that I did not steal your aerodrome. I was there already yesterday but missed the correct one.)

Ach! Pitcairn Autogiro: Sun n’ Fun 2010 Grand Champion Antique Winner! Or the Flying Dinosaur.

India Four Two 17th Dec 2010 15:04

RegDep,

Yes, a magnificently restored Pitcairn PA-18 (not to be confused with a Super Cub):
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...738f633af9.jpg

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...3ec63f677f.jpg

A 40 foot rotor which would just squeeze into a 30 foot hangar on the diagonal. The big issue is the height, which I haven't been able to track down, but I'm guessing it must be about 15 feet.

Here's a video from Oshkosh 2009 showing startup, rotor-spinup and a circuit and landing YouTube - Airventure 2009: Pitcairn PA-18 Autogyro Flight

and here is a video of the PCA2 showing a more impressive takeoff and landing performance YouTube - PCA2 Autogiro Flying

Finally, a fascinating 70 minute EAA webinar with Andrew King, the PA-18 pilot, discussing the restoration and flying characteristics EAA Video Player - Your Source for Aviation Videos

I have become a Pitcairn enthusiast after discovering this marvellous aircraft.

RegDep, over to you (and no problem about the aerodrome ;) I hadn't even started to look in Mozambique)

RegDep 17th Dec 2010 15:17

Thanks I42,

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/...ep/cockpit.jpg

evansb 17th Dec 2010 15:58

DG-500 series ?

RegDep 17th Dec 2010 16:03

I am afraid not.

asw28-866 17th Dec 2010 19:16

Distinctive panel shape, is that original? I would guess at a side opening canopy and if the vario is anything to go by a fairly early (70's?) glass glider. Am I warm?

RegDep 17th Dec 2010 20:31

My understanding is that it is original. Mid 70s glass glider.

ExAscoteer 17th Dec 2010 20:49

Looks like a PIK-20 to me.

RegDep 17th Dec 2010 20:59

There might be a connection, but the challenge is not PIK-20.

RegDep 18th Dec 2010 13:42

Just to update:

The glider is of 1976 model, but the variometer is from 1973.

And the panel is original.

asw28-866 19th Dec 2010 06:36

series production or one-off?

RegDep 19th Dec 2010 07:51

Over 1000 manufactured in a handful of versions.

RegDep 19th Dec 2010 17:47

Maybe the camera lens has been a bit too short and made the panel disproportionate to the rest of the "pointy head"...

German....

evansb 20th Dec 2010 17:59

Grob G 102 Astir CS ?

RegDep 20th Dec 2010 18:05

Yes, that's it! :)

Over to you. :D:D:D


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