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Mnewton 4th May 2020 12:11

Looks like a grasshopper to me ,its a wonder we didnt fold up the wings on the winch launch at 613 gs

DaveReidUK 4th May 2020 14:10


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10771880)
Sure it's not a Grasshopper?

If Wikipedia is to be believed,

"the [Slingsby T.3 Primary] type became known as the Dagling, a name formed by combining Dagnall and Zögling, which later became used informally to cover all types of primary gliders in the UK"

so a Grasshopper was also, colloquially speaking, a "Dagling".

chevvron 4th May 2020 15:14

Thought the Grasshopper had the designation T 38.

Then of course Elliots of Newbury (EoN) prodiuced their version which was I think the Eton.

DaveReidUK 4th May 2020 15:45


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10772329)
Thought the Grasshopper had the designation T 38.

Yes: T.3 Primary (based on the Dagling proper) and the later T.38 Grasshopper.

ACW562 4th May 2020 19:06


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10771880)
Sure it's not a Grasshopper?

It is. Daggling is an old term used many years ago.

ACW562 4th May 2020 19:07


Originally Posted by Mnewton (Post 10772205)
Looks like a grasshopper to me ,its a wonder we didnt fold up the wings on the winch launch at 613 gs

800 ft on a winch launch. It did not go in the daily flying log !!

ACW562 4th May 2020 19:10

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....057cf6ab62.jpg
631 Sealand. 1968

ACW562 4th May 2020 19:14

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....63bf98200.jpeg
WB986. First Sedburgh to be delivered to the then 186 GS. Later 631. Hawerden and later sealand. (1953. I was still in my pram then. This photo given to my by Bill Grey. Ex CO of 631)

ACW562 4th May 2020 19:16

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7285a14de0.jpg
WB 937 over Hawarden. Cyril Coleman. (100 % great man and instructor.) Mid 60s

chevvron 5th May 2020 07:20


Originally Posted by ACW562 (Post 10772536)
800 ft on a winch launch. It did not go in the daily flying log !!

It did at 613 'cos the CO, Jacko, did the first flight and he was no lightweight; as Mal said it's a wonder the wings didn't fold up. .
The guys on the winch said they fell about laughing when he was overhead, seeing this very slim fuselage with Jacko's bulk at the front.

WE992 5th May 2020 19:10

Great photos keep them coming!

chevvron 30th May 2020 12:39

Watched James Martin's cookery show on TV today and he visited the Windemere Jetty Museum. Take a look at this.
Slingsby Falcon 1 Glider - Windermere Jetty glider/

Guern 31st May 2020 23:39

I went to RAF Halton in !985 to do my glider scholarship on Venture Gliders.. I can't remember what the VGS was called. Excellent fun.

chevvron 1st Jun 2020 09:01


Originally Posted by Guern (Post 10798755)
I went to RAF Halton in !985 to do my glider scholarship on Venture Gliders.. I can't remember what the VGS was called. Excellent fun.

Well 612 were boltholed to Halton sometime in the late '80s or early '90s (kicked out of Benson until someone twigged there was an empty airfield at Abingdon and get in quick before the Army ruined it), but it was probably the resident 613 you flew with.
I was Wing Gliding Liaison Officer for both schools at the time of the co located operations.

Guern 1st Jun 2020 20:49

Thanks. Having found some paperwork today it was 613.

Mnewton 1st Jun 2020 22:13


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 10797560)
Watched James Martin's cookery show on TV today and he visited the Windemere Jetty Museum. Take a look at this.
Slingsby Falcon 1 Glider - Windermere Jetty glider/

looks like another flying brick , wonder what altitude was reached on the tow ? 200 feet ?

bill2b 8th Jun 2020 12:25


Originally Posted by ACW562 (Post 10772548)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7285a14de0.jpg
WB 937 over Hawarden. Cyril Coleman. (100 % great man and instructor.) Mid 60s

My first 5 glider flights were in this one on 9 March 75, 27 minutes total. then another 12 minutes a month later. First picture I have seen of it thanks.

longer ron 22nd Jun 2020 13:28

I cannot remember if either myself or a n other forum member has posted this photo before but I always thought it was a pity that the T21 was redesigned post WW2.
The original T21 cockpit looked so much more fun :)

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a69a26f65a.jpg

chevvron 23rd Jun 2020 10:32

Yes according to what I've read, that is the view with the front section detached; a front section was provided but the RAF didn't like it so the aircraft was re-desigend to omit the detachable bit.

longer ron 23rd Jun 2020 10:44

Yes that is correct Chevvron - from memory the original T21 was rejected by the RAF and ended up at Dunstable ?? The Gliding Club really liked the concept and suggested some improvements to Slingsby,slingsby slightly enlarged the design and it emerged as the T21 A then B.


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