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MReyn24050 18th Feb 2006 14:10

barit1. You are on the right lines any idea which one i.e. Fleet?

barit1 18th Feb 2006 17:23

The Fleet was built under several different company names, starting in the late 20's. My cousin owned a Fleet 2 (Kinner 100 hp.) - built in Buffalo about 1929 I think. In the 30's a Canadian company bought the rights and wound up building hundreds of Fleet 16B trainers (160 hp Kinner) with cockpit canopies for the RCAF IIRC.

I wouldn't know how to pin this photo down any closer than that.

jabberwok 18th Feb 2006 18:27

Fleet Fawn Mk II (7c)?

Barit deserves the award if this is right. The Fawn is the only aircraft to show the curved windscreen in your photo - all the other Fleet's seem to have three piece glass.

MReyn24050 18th Feb 2006 18:43

barit 1 & jabberwok
This aircraft was the Fleet 7. NC226H
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...N226H20rfq.jpg
OK Barit 1 identified the designer, he has control.
Reuben H.Fleet launched in 1923 in Buffalo, N.Y. the Consolidated Aircraft Co. Consolidated built huge numbers of flying boats for the U.S. Navy. The creation of the civil Model 14 "Husky"trainer led to the creation of the Fleet Aircraft Division in 1929. The Fleet 7 flew first in 1930, a total of 374 were built, including the Fleet 10 designed for the European market. Manufacturing rights of the Fleet trainers were sold in 1939 to Brewster Aeronautical Corp. The Early Birds'

barit1 18th Feb 2006 19:06

I'm extending downwind so someone else can take my slot. ;)

jabberwok 18th Feb 2006 19:10

Many thanks Barit. I just so have one..
http://www.homepages.mcb.net/bones/WebPix/Cockpit.gif

BSD 18th Feb 2006 19:36

How about a Hawker of some kind, Hind/Hart/Audax? Not a Fury as it seems to have 2 seats.

682al 18th Feb 2006 21:55

Hawker Tomtit

jabberwok 19th Feb 2006 05:21

Spot on 682al - your turn now.

682al 19th Feb 2006 08:45

May I skip my turn, please, while I search desperately for something with a bit of a challenge in it?

Anyone having a photo to hand, please go ahead...

gruntie 19th Feb 2006 09:38

OK for as brief interlude try this one:

http://i1.tinypic.com/o512lc.jpg

Genghis the Engineer 19th Feb 2006 09:48

Short Empire flying boat?

G

gruntie 19th Feb 2006 09:57

Nope - keep trying........

Bert Stiles 19th Feb 2006 10:01

If it's the Brabazon can we have another please ? 'cos we've already had that.

LowNSlow 19th Feb 2006 10:03

Martin Mars?

gruntie 19th Feb 2006 10:04

.......groan.......told you it would be brief. Apologies, didn't think it had come up. Over to you........

Genghis the Engineer 19th Feb 2006 10:20

Aha, so it is! And here's where you got the photo.


If I may jump in, happened to spot one of these whilst I had a camera in my hand a little while ago. Sorry my focussing finger wasn't working well that day, but I'd hate to make life too easy.

(Who am I kidding, it'll probably be gone by lunchtime as usual).

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c4...ckpit19Feb.jpg

G

treadigraph 19th Feb 2006 10:26

Ghengis, is that TFC's Beaufighter? Looks familiar...

If so, someone else have a go, I aint got none!

Bert Stiles 19th Feb 2006 10:29

In line with modern CRM, the policy of the thread is not to operate a blame culture (though this shall not provide a defence in the case of deliberate or wilful negligence).

Please facilitate communication with other sources of information, weigh and decide on possible solutions, review your options - finally attempt to disaffirm the choice and if unable to do so - post a new challenge.

Go on have another go.

MReyn24050 19th Feb 2006 10:34

I too would say it was the Beaufighter which also has been up before. Henry Crun on 22 Oct 05.

cringe 19th Feb 2006 11:19

List of types already posted

Genghis the Engineer 19th Feb 2006 12:15

'Tis true, I was passing through the restoration workshop at Duxford a few weeks ago and happened to have a camera in my hand. Apologies for not noting it had gone before.

G

MReyn24050 19th Feb 2006 12:36

Great photograph Gengis. Please do not apologise with some 277 aircraft in the list it is easily done. I see cringe has kindly updated the list, thanks for that cringe. So Gengis I am sure you have a few that have not yet been posted.

Mr_Grubby 19th Feb 2006 12:58

Hope nobody minds if I jump in with a quickie !!

Clint.

http://www.btinternet.com/~simon.gur.../cockpit10.jpg

MReyn24050 19th Feb 2006 15:14

Clint

How could we object when you started this wonderful thread. Could this be a Commonwealth 185 Skyranger.

Mr_Grubby 19th Feb 2006 15:23

Thanks Mel. I had no idea it would take off like this !!
No, it's not a 185 Skyranger.

C.

BSD 19th Feb 2006 15:43

I'll go for another wild guess, hopefully not too inaccurate!
How about an Aermacchi-Lockheed AL60, possibly the SA built version which I think is called an Atlas Kudu?
BTW, this thread is loads-a-fun! Who cares if some of them get repeated!

Mr_Grubby 19th Feb 2006 16:01

Sorry BSD.

C.

185skywagon 19th Feb 2006 21:26

Murphy Moose??

con-pilot 19th Feb 2006 22:06

Sorry to interrupt, and if out of line please direct me to the proper area.

I have a lot of pictures of airplanes, some rather strange, that I have flown including cockpits, the PQ-14 is one. However they are in slide format and I don't have clue how to show these pictures on line.

Can anybody help?

Excellent thread by the way! :ok:

Genghis the Engineer 19th Feb 2006 23:33


Originally Posted by con-pilot
Sorry to interrupt, and if out of line please direct me to the proper area.
I have a lot of pictures of airplanes, some rather strange, that I have flown including cockpits, the PQ-14 is one. However they are in slide format and I don't have clue how to show these pictures on line.
Can anybody help?
Excellent thread by the way! :ok:

Either go to a commercial service, or buy a slide scanner.

All-in-one printer/scanner/slide scanners such as the Epson RX620 (I have a slightly older model and it's excellent) start at a few hundred pounds. Do a web search (or look at the small-ads in the back of camera magazines) and you'll find lots of companies who do slide to digital transfers; prices vary a lot, and it's usually cheapest to have them done in batches.

G

jabberwok 20th Feb 2006 02:07

Helio Courier?

Mr_Grubby 20th Feb 2006 02:34

Not a Murphy Moose or Helio Courier.

It's European.

C.

jabberwok 20th Feb 2006 02:48

Dornier 27 then? I think it's one of those short field types hence the guess at the Helio.

185skywagon 20th Feb 2006 03:10

Max Holste Broussard?

MReyn24050 20th Feb 2006 06:42

Beagle Airedale perhaps? On second thoughts not the Airedale as that had control yokes so I will go for the Beagle Terrier.

Mr_Grubby 20th Feb 2006 06:51

None of those.
Think Eastern European.

C.

jabberwok 20th Feb 2006 06:57

PZL 105?

A wild guess now.. :8

Mr_Grubby 20th Feb 2006 07:29

jabberwok.
You're getting warm.

C.

jabberwok 20th Feb 2006 07:54

That's the only one I know apart rom the Wilga (which we've had). I'll have to leave someone else to make the final connection.


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