Unusual air combat combinations
3 May 1953 Polikarpov Po-2 vs Lockheed F-94 Starfire.
The biplane won!
The F-94 slowed down to keep the 94mph Po-2 in sight to get a shot, and is believed to have stalled and crashed whilst doing so.
The biplane won!
The F-94 slowed down to keep the 94mph Po-2 in sight to get a shot, and is believed to have stalled and crashed whilst doing so.
The 13Sqn PR7 was being flown by a 58Sqn crew. It was a Meteor that got them. The morning flight had been unsuccessful and they returned in the afternoon. Medium level cloud so they trying to get the pics from about 15,000 looking for the Migs coming down from Russia. Don''t think it was a dogfight, they didn't see it coming.
Pilot and nav survived but jump seat didn't.
On landing they had to persuade the Lebanese army they were not Israeli spies.
Later met the pilot who was a BCal 707 captain. He was quite surprised I knew his history. There was a D notice but the Telegraph seemed to miss it and printed a very short piece about it.
Canberra versus almost anything up around 50,000 was a winner but once you got down to medium levels the Meteor was better, you could pull so much more g and much more manoeuvrable.
Had many dogfights with this combination usually with Neill Williams.
Think the details are pretty accurate but the usual disclaimer due to passing time and senility.
Pilot and nav survived but jump seat didn't.
On landing they had to persuade the Lebanese army they were not Israeli spies.
Later met the pilot who was a BCal 707 captain. He was quite surprised I knew his history. There was a D notice but the Telegraph seemed to miss it and printed a very short piece about it.
Canberra versus almost anything up around 50,000 was a winner but once you got down to medium levels the Meteor was better, you could pull so much more g and much more manoeuvrable.
Had many dogfights with this combination usually with Neill Williams.
Think the details are pretty accurate but the usual disclaimer due to passing time and senility.
The 13Sqn PR7 was being flown by a 58Sqn crew. It was a Meteor that got them. The morning flight had been unsuccessful and they returned in the afternoon. Medium level cloud so they trying to get the pics from about 15,000 looking for the Migs coming down from Russia. Don''t think it was a dogfight, they didn't see it coming.
Pilot and nav survived but jump seat didn't.
On landing they had to persuade the Lebanese army they were not Israeli spies.
Later met the pilot who was a BCal 707 captain. He was quite surprised I knew his history. There was a D notice but the Telegraph seemed to miss it and printed a very short piece about it.
Canberra versus almost anything up around 50,000 was a winner but once you got down to medium levels the Meteor was better, you could pull so much more g and much more manoeuvrable.
Had many dogfights with this combination usually with Neill Williams.
Think the details are pretty accurate but the usual disclaimer due to passing time and senility.
Pilot and nav survived but jump seat didn't.
On landing they had to persuade the Lebanese army they were not Israeli spies.
Later met the pilot who was a BCal 707 captain. He was quite surprised I knew his history. There was a D notice but the Telegraph seemed to miss it and printed a very short piece about it.
Canberra versus almost anything up around 50,000 was a winner but once you got down to medium levels the Meteor was better, you could pull so much more g and much more manoeuvrable.
Had many dogfights with this combination usually with Neill Williams.
Think the details are pretty accurate but the usual disclaimer due to passing time and senility.
Loss of Canberra
The F-94 that managed to shoot down one had to deploy its undercarriage and flaps but after that success stalled and crashed. Another F-94 collided with another Po-2 and also crashed.
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There is a description of this event by the pilot - Fl Lt Hunter- on the International Bomber Command Centre Losses Database....link below. The Canberra was carrying an extra crewman whose task was to keep a look out for hostile aircraft using the sextant periscope!
Loss of Canberra
Loss of Canberra
Air America pilot Ted Moore and flight mechanic Glenn Woods were flying a Huey in Laos during the Vietnam conflict and Woods shot down a AN2 with his AK-47.
During WWII 2d Lt. Owen J. Baggett was the co-pilot of a B-24 shot down by Zeros while making an attack on a railroad bridge at Pyinmana, about halfway between Rangoon and Mandalay. Descending in his chute he was strafed and wounded, he fired four shots from his Colt .45 at a Zero that flew close by, one shot hit the pilot in the head, killing him and causing the Zero to crash. In the POW camp following capture he was surprisingly received and feted as a hero by the Japanese camp commander, a colonel, for his fine shooting at the Zero. This is an example of the Japanese military’s peculiar Bushido code, which placed great emphasis on honor and valor in battle.
During WWII 2d Lt. Owen J. Baggett was the co-pilot of a B-24 shot down by Zeros while making an attack on a railroad bridge at Pyinmana, about halfway between Rangoon and Mandalay. Descending in his chute he was strafed and wounded, he fired four shots from his Colt .45 at a Zero that flew close by, one shot hit the pilot in the head, killing him and causing the Zero to crash. In the POW camp following capture he was surprisingly received and feted as a hero by the Japanese camp commander, a colonel, for his fine shooting at the Zero. This is an example of the Japanese military’s peculiar Bushido code, which placed great emphasis on honor and valor in battle.
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Wasn't there a Royal Australian Navy Se Fury that shot down an Auster which managed to get airborne without a pilot from Bankstown?
Or was that another bar room Urban Myth??
Various aircraft were tried to try and deal with the night time nuisance raids by the Po-2 including T-6 Texans and Fireflies as well as the F-94 with little success,
The F-94 that managed to shoot down one had to deploy its undercarriage and flaps but after that success stalled and crashed. Another F-94 collided with another Po-2 and also crashed.
The F-94 that managed to shoot down one had to deploy its undercarriage and flaps but after that success stalled and crashed. Another F-94 collided with another Po-2 and also crashed.
There was a Harrier that crashed in the Bristol Channel when the pilot was accidently ejected due to something getting caught in the seat. The aircraft flew for quite a while without the pilot.
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Also a pilotless Mig 23 crashed in Belgium about 35 years ago after making its way westwards over the Iron Curtain...
Our second 'incident' of the day, a few hours previously I'd had a 'MAYDAY' from an AA5 over Basingstoke which descended on a PFL and when the instructor told the pilot to climb away the engine just quit.
Departed from Dunsfold on a test flight just as I went off duty. I was already out of the door when somewhere about Boscombe Down (who'd already closed for the day) the drogue 'chute on his seat deployed and took the poor pilot with it. A shepherd was vectored onto it over the Bristol Channel and confirmed the guide rail had been acitvated and the seat was empty.