'The Dambusters' movie
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As a matter of interest, I was stationed in Soest during my AAC days which is just down the road from the Möhne dam, I still live quite near it.
I was on a little boat tour they do around the resevoir and the chap doing the commentary was actually there when the dam was breached, he was a machine gunner on night duty at the time. Fascinating to talk to him, but I don't know if he's still there it was a while ago.
I was on a little boat tour they do around the resevoir and the chap doing the commentary was actually there when the dam was breached, he was a machine gunner on night duty at the time. Fascinating to talk to him, but I don't know if he's still there it was a while ago.
THE DAMBUSTERS MOVIE
If you are interested ther is a small section in the book Lancaster at War (the first one) entitled The Dambusters Movie and Fact.
Also there is some good reading re the German View in either
The Men Who Breached The Dam's or Beyond The Dam's To The Tirpitz. You can prob get/or order all these books at the library.
Hope this Helps You
SPIT
Also there is some good reading re the German View in either
The Men Who Breached The Dam's or Beyond The Dam's To The Tirpitz. You can prob get/or order all these books at the library.
Hope this Helps You
SPIT
Slight aside, I had a call a couple of days ago from a production company working for Channel 4. They wanted to know how to drop a scale bouncing bomb from a modern aircraft for a programme about the raid, scheduled to go out next year.
Should be interesting work if we get it.
G
Should be interesting work if we get it.
G
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Good luck on the dropping of a replica "Upkeep"!
But will it be another C4 "exclusive revelations" programme such as
a) the Eder dam wasn't particularly critical to German industry.
b) Upkeep wasn't designed for rockfill dams like the Sorpe
c) minor conventional bombing of the dam rebuilding operations could have extended the effects considerably.
of which points most half interested people are already aware,
but which don't detract from the incredible bravery of the men on the mission and the ingenuity of Barnes Wallis.
But will it be another C4 "exclusive revelations" programme such as
a) the Eder dam wasn't particularly critical to German industry.
b) Upkeep wasn't designed for rockfill dams like the Sorpe
c) minor conventional bombing of the dam rebuilding operations could have extended the effects considerably.
of which points most half interested people are already aware,
but which don't detract from the incredible bravery of the men on the mission and the ingenuity of Barnes Wallis.
I get the impression that they're more interested in the technicalities of how it was developed and worked than the history. If so, it'll be a bonus, I'm still recovering from helping C4 make the Scrapheap "flying machines" episode, for which I was grossly underpaid and missed from the credits. (Then again, given they chopped out anything related to how we ensured the whole thing was done safely, perhaps I'm better not being publically associated with it).
However, no guarantee it'll happen. Might even be worth looking at doing from one of the couple of giant flying model lancs around, will look better and only endanger property - bombs have a remarkable tendency to come back and hit the aircraft that released them. That's much of the reason that modern bombing usually involves both explosive ejection devices and dynamic manoeuvres during the pickle.
G
However, no guarantee it'll happen. Might even be worth looking at doing from one of the couple of giant flying model lancs around, will look better and only endanger property - bombs have a remarkable tendency to come back and hit the aircraft that released them. That's much of the reason that modern bombing usually involves both explosive ejection devices and dynamic manoeuvres during the pickle.
G
Back to the censored dog.
We must have some coloured ppruners, if you're out there, are you offended? Either by the use of the term by Guy Gibson or by the references in the film? Surely this is what matters.
We must have some coloured ppruners, if you're out there, are you offended? Either by the use of the term by Guy Gibson or by the references in the film? Surely this is what matters.
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So Genghis, how did you/they manage to square that "Scrapheap challenge" with safety, the CAA, BGA etc etc?
I always wondered.
Scrapheap challenge used to amuse, but now the components are getting a bit too obviously planted.
And seeing identical components/solutions often coming up on the American version, one wonders even more about the "spontenaity"
And they always finish the units just in time.
Maybe we should start another thread.
I always wondered.
Scrapheap challenge used to amuse, but now the components are getting a bit too obviously planted.
And seeing identical components/solutions often coming up on the American version, one wonders even more about the "spontenaity"
And they always finish the units just in time.
Maybe we should start another thread.
Gentleman Aviator
A dead neuron has just re-fired with another good tale I heard about the filming of "Dambusters".
An old boy I was talking to at a reunion or RAFA do or something had been at Scampton when the filming was done. There were mega-problems with lots of actors wandering around in "uniform", being saluted, or being b*ll*cked by the SWO for not saluting (if the actors were "airmen"). Much confusion all round.
Simple solution arrived at in the black & white age: all "actors" wear brown shoes/boots in uniform instead of black!
But Richard Todd (Guy Gibson) had been a commissioned officer, so apparently insisted on wearing black shoes and getting saluted by real airmen!!
An old boy I was talking to at a reunion or RAFA do or something had been at Scampton when the filming was done. There were mega-problems with lots of actors wandering around in "uniform", being saluted, or being b*ll*cked by the SWO for not saluting (if the actors were "airmen"). Much confusion all round.
Simple solution arrived at in the black & white age: all "actors" wear brown shoes/boots in uniform instead of black!
But Richard Todd (Guy Gibson) had been a commissioned officer, so apparently insisted on wearing black shoes and getting saluted by real airmen!!
