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Old 24th Jul 2022, 20:06
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Originally Posted by Haraka
The story was that when the T4 arrived at Strathallan , the fuel in the tanks was worth more than what it had been sold for.
I'm not sure what they are worth now but that (used to be) true for a lot of large Warbirds. I remember reading in the 70's B17's going for around 40k. When you work out a B17 can burn that in just a few flights it's not the purchase price that's the issue.
It's all the other stuff.
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Old 24th Jul 2022, 20:07
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
I wouldn't hold your breath. I doubt it will ever fly again.
Nope. Don't think I'll see one again my lifetime. The South African one was our last hope.
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Old 24th Jul 2022, 22:20
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Hot off the (York) Press....

A RARE Cold War aircraft, “a distant cousin to the Lancaster bomber”, is due to arrive at a North Yorkshire Museum.

Yorkshire Air Museum, at Elvington, has secured the Avro Shackleton MR2 RAF aircraft, which was built to search for Russian submarines in the Cold War, as well as helping in search and rescue operations.

The aircraft, also known as Ermintrude WR963, was preserved by the Shackleton Aviation Group at Coventry Airport for 31 years, but the redevelopment of the airport means the plane had to look for a new home.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/203...re-air-museum/

The Lancaster was built in major components that could be taken apart for easy recovery after a crash. They would be transported on Queen Mary Trailers to a repair centre where they would be repaired or reduced to useful parts. There is a Queen Mary Trailer and Bedford OX Tractor Unit at the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre, East Kirkby.






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Old 25th Jul 2022, 18:07
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The reason why the Lancaster and the Shackleton broke down into easily roadable chunks is more to do with the fact that they were built on the other side of Manchester and it made it easier to transport them to AVRO's airfield at Woodford where they were assembled and test flown. Incidentally the Shackleton that used to be on display in the science museum in central Manchester recently made a very similar trip into storage on what used to be the airfield at Woodford.
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 20:25
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Originally Posted by WB627
Hot off the (York) Press....

A RARE Cold War aircraft, “a distant cousin to the Lancaster bomber”, is due to arrive at a North Yorkshire Museum.

Yorkshire Air Museum, at Elvington, has secured the Avro Shackleton MR2 RAF aircraft, which was built to search for Russian submarines in the Cold War, as well as helping in search and rescue operations.

The aircraft, also known as Ermintrude WR963, was preserved by the Shackleton Aviation Group at Coventry Airport for 31 years, but the redevelopment of the airport means the plane had to look for a new home.

https://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/203...re-air-museum/

The Lancaster was built in major components that could be taken apart for easy recovery after a crash. They would be transported on Queen Mary Trailers to a repair centre where they would be repaired or reduced to useful parts. There is a Queen Mary Trailer and Bedford OX Tractor Unit at the Lincolnshire Aviation Heritage Centre, East Kirkby.



What is the unit pulling the trailer?
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Old 25th Jul 2022, 23:38
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 00:08
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Very sad - I remember many years ago visiting an office in Hendon (Sunny Gardens Parade) when a Beverly roared overhead on finals to the the closed Airfield. I wondered what had become of the aircraft which I assumed was destined for the Museum.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 06:50
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Ref post #23: the tractor unit in that photo (towing the Lancaster nose section) is a Bedford product, though I don't know the model.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 08:24
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Bedford OXC seems most likely.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 08:49
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Just scrap

While America reveres itshistoric aircraft the UK cannot spare a dime to preserve.Other than the BBMF which is sacrosanct !
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 08:51
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I was stationed at Abingdon in 1959 and took these photos there:





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Old 26th Jul 2022, 14:13
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Originally Posted by oldpax
While America reveres itshistoric aircraft the UK cannot spare a dime to preserve.Other than the BBMF which is sacrosanct !
Imperial War Museum Duxford, RAF Museum London, RAF Museum Midlands. And that's just the official ones.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 14:33
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I was ignoring the dumb comment.

I'd be surprised if there was a hangar in the heritage sector a Beverley would even fit in at 162 ft span and nearly 40 ft high.
Like it or not, whoever, if anybody, gets involved, the outlook can't be promising.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 18:11
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Originally Posted by India Four Two
Commer Q2





Nice pictures, thanks for posting. Wonder if anyone does a model in 1/72?
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 18:17
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Airfix did it



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Old 26th Jul 2022, 18:25
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Originally Posted by Self loading bear
Airfix did it


That's the Bedford OXC unit though, not the Commer Q2 unit.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 20:14
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I can remember my late Father in Law talking about driving Queen Mary's at some stage during the war mostly picking up wrecks.I think he was based at Castle Camps wherever that was.I can remember him talking about taking a chain saw to a Mosquito.Later in the war he was in Italy carry supplies to airfields.He always had a twinkle in his eye when talking about Italy.
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Old 26th Jul 2022, 20:35
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Originally Posted by GeeRam
That's the Bedford OXC unit though, not the Commer Q2 unit.
You are of course correct.
For Commer Q2 you seem to have 2 options:
build from scratch following an airfix magazine:
Airfix DIY

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or an Romanian kit:Wespe Romanian kit

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Old 26th Jul 2022, 21:15
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Originally Posted by KING6024
I think he was based at Castle Camps wherever that was...
Eastern Cambridgeshire, Essex border and very close to Suffolk as well.

Closed in early 1946 so largely forgotten now.
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Old 27th Jul 2022, 10:37
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Originally Posted by DHfan
I was ignoring the dumb comment.

I'd be surprised if there was a hangar in the heritage sector a Beverley would even fit in at 162 ft span and nearly 40 ft high.
Like it or not, whoever, if anybody, gets involved, the outlook can't be promising.
Sort of correct. Abingdon had a new hangar (novel in building the roof then jacking it up with the walls). Dishforth solved the problem with the unique ground handling 'skates' - fitted under the mains and nose gear, raising the nose to lower the tail and allowing the tilted aircraft to be moved sideways into the 'old style' hangar.
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