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Bent aircraft, Egypt? WWII

Old 5th Sep 2021, 11:37
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Bent aircraft, Egypt? WWII

This grainy photograph was among a pile left by my father, ex-RAF. There is no indication of what, when or where, but he may be the one standing in front of it. He flew fighters and much later on was a navigator on bombers.

Regardless of all that, does it ring a bell with anyone, or is there anything that can be picked up from this rather featureless photograph?

(Thank you for looking. Not expecting miracles, but if one does not ask…)
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 11:39
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Well, it's a Douglas Boston - that's about all I can offer! Looks like an RAF fin flash, so probably not a USAAF Havoc.
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It looks as if the u/c has just folded on the stbd.side; prop `seems` undamaged ,and no wild `skid-marks on the ground,which might indicate the engines weren`t running....maybe someone accidentally lifted the gear handle...?
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 11:59
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All good stuff! Many thanks!
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Old 5th Sep 2021, 15:51
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You may want to read this: Douglas Boston in RAF Service

It gives you pretty good timelines on squadrons, theatres and years the Boston was used, so if you know your fathers tour dates, you can probably take a good educated guess on to which RAF squadron the aircraft might belong to. Then its just a matter of checking the individual squadron history.
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Thank you for the way forward, Beamr.

Actually I’ve just remembered he had some hairy times in Palestine too.
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No problem, I hope it helps, best of luck on your quest!
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Find it difficult to determine the different Mks but the RAF did operate Havocs and were named as such, 23 Squadron was one operator. Photograph seems to be a Boston III.
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Ground loop

Nosewheel steering?Offset to stbd,Cowl gills open and whats that round object under the stbd mainplane,taxi light?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 10:17
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Cowl flaps open would be typical for landing/taxi (at a guess) and if it's anything like other bombers of that era, the nosewheel is most likely free castoring with a shimmy damper. So the nosewheel being turned may be the result of the main gear collapsing and the weight on it shifting. The object under the wing looks a lot like a landing light to me, this photo shows a (retractable) landing light in that location under the right wing:
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Looks like a bit of `art` graffiti on the side below the cockpit...don`t think it`s a window; might identify the Squadron/Flight...?
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 13:06
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if it helps. . . . mucking around with photoshop, the 'art' appears to be a Halloween ghost!! [imho!]
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 13:21
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Caspar?

I’d already edited and ‘improved’ the photo, but you can have the original if it helps.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 13:24
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And Fournier, you may well be right!!!



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Old 6th Sep 2021, 14:37
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No doubt it would have come under the heading' Far too Difficult ' and be removed by the local scrap dealers.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 17:52
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To me the closest squadron marking to the picture on the plane would 24th squadron S.A.A.F. (and I can't be absolutely sure for the grainines, but similarity is there). 24th had Bostons in North Africa and Italy from November 1941-December 1943. Would it match your fathers tour?



https://www.saairforce.co.za/the-air...29/24-squadron

also, heres a rather good picture of 24th S.A.A.F Boston with the squadron logo



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Just musing, but fact that the landing light (presume it had one under each wing) was in the lowered position preparatory to a night landing.
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Old 6th Sep 2021, 22:08
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looks similar to one I got down to Abu simple from Aswan a few years back 🙈
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Beamr, these fit well with stories he told about sleeping in a tent and the creatures like centipedes and mice that they had to contend with. Thank you for these interesting cameos. And the squadron marking! They have stirred up a nostalgic nest of memories. He mentioned flying low over the Nile once too.
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