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QANTAS VH-EAC L-1049 accident at Mauritius

Old 24th Jul 2021, 18:04
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QANTAS VH-EAC L-1049 accident at Mauritius

Dear all,

Iīm looking for some kind of accident report about the take off crash of the QANTAS L-1049 at Mauritius on the 24.08.1960. I would assume that there was some sort of investigation, but I havenīt found any "official" documentation..

I have found some information on Australian websites, for example some articles from Mr. Job on the CAA Website. I have also asked the ATSB, unfortunaly with kind, but negative result. So any help is appreciated.

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Stubenfliege




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Old 24th Jul 2021, 21:47
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I think that the chances of finding a contemporaneous investigation report of a 1960 accident on the Internet are fairly slim ...

What kind of information are you looking for that isn't covered in Macarthur Job's article ?
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 05:14
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Short story here. I suspect you’ve already seen this.
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19600824-1
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 07:29
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Originally Posted by wakefield View Post
Short story here. I suspect you’ve already seen this.
https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19600824-1
And here's the source of ASN's report.
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Old 25th Jul 2021, 08:10
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That accident is why any discussion about Qantas not losing an aircraft has to be qualified with the caveat-"In the jet age"
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That accident is why any discussion about Qantas not losing an aircraft has to be qualified with the caveat-"In the jet age"
And it's amazing how much money they were prepared to spend on repairs to avoid QF1 in Bangkok ruining that.
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As is customary in these events, the insurers are the sole arbiters of what happens to the airframe. Theirs and theirs alone is the decision to write off or repair.
QF did not make that decision nor had they the power.
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Surely it only becomes the insurers property once a claim has been paid. In the (unlikely?) event that QF don’t make a claim and pay all outstanding bills then the insurers can whistle, surely.

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The insurers would take the cheapest option surely. If it's cheaper to repair than write off, that's how it works on my car insurance, so the insurers are the sole arbiters as pointed out by mustafagander. Why would the airline not make a claim, they pay an insurance premium for a reason.

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Old 29th Jul 2021, 15:18
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Weird, I was under the impression for years that Qantas lost an HS125 in the 1960s yet looking that up now, it appears totally erroneous. I've chucked out my old copies of Bizjets which would have been my source. I know the South African AF lost three in a formation display crash (hit a peak in cloud during a formation display) but I was sure there was an airline crew trainer loss too.
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Nothing wrong with your memory treaders, except Qantas had sold the aircraft to a UK operator G-OBOB. Crashed at night Colombia, Montana, USA one killed one serious. From accident report.

THE ACFT WAS EN ROUTE AT 31,000 FT, WHEN THE LOW PRESSURE FUEL FILTER WARNING LIGHT ILLUMINATED. THE PLT DIVERTED TOWARD COLUMBIA, MO, BUT BEFORE REACHING COLUMBIA, BOTH ENGINES LOST POWER. SUBSEQUENTLY, THE ACFT CRASHED ABOUT 2 MI EAST OF THE ARPT. AN INVESTIGATION REVEALED THE FUEL WAS CONTAMINATED WITH WATER. THE FUEL FILTER DEICING SYSTEM WAS OPERATIONAL, BUT A POST-ACDNT EXAM REVEALED THE DEICING TANK WAS EMPTY. THIS WAS THE 2ND FLT SINCE THE DEICE TANK HAD BEEN SERVICED. THE MANUFACTURER'S INFO INDICATED THE SUPPLY TANK SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED ABOUT 3 TO 4 HRS OF FILTER DEICING OPERATION.
Probable Cause and Findings
The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident to be:
INADEQUATE PREFLIGHT BY THE PILOT(S), WATER CONTAMINATION OF THE FUEL, LOW LEVEL OF DEICE FLUID (METHANOL) IN THE DEICE TANK, AND SUBSEQUENT ICE BLOCKAGE OF THE FUEL FILTERS. DARKNESS WAS A RELATED FACTOR.
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VH-JET#1 & Her Sisters - Little Sisters
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I can see a TAA 727 just on the right of the photo above, not really surprising given the location, but is that a DC4 outside the hangar; or staring more closely at my screen, perhaps a Viscount 700? Even on my phone I can't enlarge the picture enough to be sure.
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I think it is a DC-4 but hard to be sure.

The 125 accident I was thinking of definitely occured much earlier than G-OBOB's demise, I'll see if I can find out what I am thinking of. Reckon a friend may have his old bizjets on the bookshelves still. I recall G-OBOB at Heathrow as G-BAXL with Dennis Vanguard. G-OBOB, Slender You... not Bob Maxwell then...
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Given the date (1971), likely to have been Qantas DC-4 VH-EDA, which was preserved at Sydney for a while before going to the USA and then Canada.

Some nice photos of it here: http://www.aussieairliners.org/dc-4/vh-anf/vhanf.html
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treaders, our Department of Civil Aviation had a 125, VH-CAO, which made an inadvertent gear up landing at Avalon, Victoria 24th Jan, 1967, maybe what you're thinking of? That and the two Qantas aircraft are the only three Oz 125's I'm aware of.
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The photo in post #12 was taken at Sydney on 16 August 1971 after the two HS-125s escorted the first Qantas 747 to the terminal. The aeroplane in the background is indeed a DC-4. In 1971 Qantas still had two DC-4s in service on the Norfolk Island route so it could be either VH-EDA "Pacific Trader" or VH-EDB "Norfolk Trader".
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It’s a DC4. I flew on one to Norfolk Island. From fuzzy memory it would have been in 1973.
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Originally Posted by megan View Post
treaders, our Department of Civil Aviation had a 125, VH-CAO, which made an inadvertent gear up landing at Avalon, Victoria 24th Jan, 1967, maybe what you're thinking of? That and the two Qantas aircraft are the only three Oz 125's I'm aware of.
Don't think it was that one as it appears to have been rebuilt - the one I'm thinking off was a write off.
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK View Post
Given the date (1971), likely to have been Qantas DC-4 VH-EDA, which was preserved at Sydney for a while before going to the USA and then Canada.

Some nice photos of it here: VH-ANF Douglas DC-4-1009
Really good photos, thanks for posting the link. Glad my recognition is still there or thereabouts.
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