Name that Flying Machine

[Self loading bear]

Double trouble

Please give the aircraft type bottom left here and the airport in the other thread

[Jhieminga]

I'll go with the Pander P-2.

[Self loading bear]

Originally Posted by Jhieminga

I'll go with the Pander P-2.

Correct Pander P-2
You still can take the double.

[Jhieminga]

I'll leave the location to someone else, and here's another challenge:

[Herod]

No idea, but it's a pretty looking machine. A real "gentleman's horseless carriage" ; and room for one's lady friend as well.

[sablatnic]

Looks a bit like a Donnet Leveque, but so does half a zillion other flying boats of that era.
Still googling

[Jhieminga]

It is not a Donnet Leveque.

[Jhieminga]

... but there is a link to the Donnet Leveque (I learned that today).

[SMOKEON]

Danish Orlogsvaerft Maagen 3 Flyingboat.

[Jhieminga]

... is the correct answer.




That means.... SMOKEON.... GO (sorry, couldn't resist that one ).

[SMOKEON]

Thank you,Jhieminga.
Quite a few clues in your original photograph.
O/H.

[fauteuil volant]

..... except that you haven't explained, Jhieminga, how your clue relates to the answer, namely that the Orlogsværftet 'Maagen' III derived from the Danes' modification of the Schreck FBA Type A (Orlogsværftet 'Maagen' II) which used Donnet Lévêque patented designs in its construction (although some sources say the Danes operated Donnet-Lévêque Type As)(see http://www.natureandtech.com/?cat=38). Or at least I believe that to be the case. The nomenclature of French pre-1919 hydravions verges on the impenetrable!

[Jhieminga]

My apologies, I must admit that I'm out of my depth here. But I understood from my Google wanderings that the Danish Navy purchased two Donnet Leveque flying boats thanks to a private funding exercise, and named them 'Maagen' and 'Ternen'. I haven't been able to dig into this any further, but with the subject aircraft named Maagen 3, I figured that there was a link between it and that Donnet Leveque 'Maagen'. As you stated, there is also a 'Maagen 2' which, from the photos I have seen and my visit to the Teknikse Museum, is much closer in configuration to (or is) the Schreck FBA type A as you stated. I may have inferred the link...

[fauteuil volant]

I think, Jhieminga, that nearly everyone is out of their depth in this particular pool. Even the acknowledged experts, on a French aviation history forum I frequent, presently are seeking help concerning two hitherto unknown French WW1 hydravions. However I think it fair to say that there is a connection between Donnet-Lévêque and the Maagen III - but what is far from clear is the number of links in and the length of the chain that connects them!

[Jhieminga]

Thanks, that helps! It wasn't just me who got confused then.

Originally Posted by SMOKEON

Quite a few clues in your original photograph.

I figured converting to B&W would at least make the Danish roundels more difficult to recognise. Can't make things too easy for you lot. Did I forget any others?

[fauteuil volant]

No takers? Enter a breach stepper! This one is known by at least two names. I'll take either, both or another (if there are more than two names!).

[fauteuil volant]

It had its origins pre-WWII, evolved post-WWII and was further adapted at the end of the fifties. It was powered by a 40hp nine cylinder Salmson engine.

[Self loading bear]

Originally Posted by fauteuil volant

It had its origins pre-WWII, evolved post-WWII and was further adapted at the end of the fifties. It was powered by a 40hp nine cylinder Salmson engine.

interesting challenge
I found the low elevator with the cut of rudder is quite typical for some designs of Peyret-Mauboissin
but no final answer yet.

[fauteuil volant]

You're in the right country, SLB, but this one is more artisanal that anything Peyret-Mauboussin produced. The Salmson replaced an earlier 35hp Anzani and the fuselage had its origins in a Mignet HM.8.

[SMOKEON]

Fellot-Lacour (FL.4) ?