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Old 1st Jul 2019, 10:41
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Saw one in the shed at Bedford. Amazed at the small size of the engine intakes. The wing and fuselage skin was like a high performance car and the front seat beautifully contoured leather. Back seats I think were similar but crammed with instruments. No idea why they didn't persevere with it, probably because the really rich wanted even more comfort .
Pontius - maybe because any pilot in his right mind would have preferred a seat from Messrs Martin Baker or Folland.
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Old 2nd Jul 2019, 11:14
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I'll drink to that, having used one.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 07:31
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And now you can buy one...


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Old 5th Sep 2019, 11:36
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Originally Posted by Blossy View Post
dook: [COLOR=left=#222222]What sort of so-called "boom" does a high velocity bullet produce ?

A very high and loud crack. Not in the least pleasant.

I have also been supersonic a few times. Total non-event inside.[/COLOR]
Never been supersonic but I have operated in the butts on Century range at Bisley and when a round is fired from 600yards away, you hear the shockwave of it passing you before you hear the crack of it being fired.
All these films you see where someone is hit by a bullet from long range with or without silencer and all you hear is the bullet striking them are a load of bollocks; the bullet has to be supersonic so you would hear the shockwave as it hits the target.

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Old 5th Sep 2019, 11:38
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Originally Posted by Pontius Navigator View Post
Saw one in the shed at Bedford. Amazed at the small size of the engine intakes. The wing and fuselage skin was like a high performance car and the front seat beautifully contoured leather. Back seats I think were similar but crammed with instruments. No idea why they didn't persevere with it, probably because the really rich wanted even more comfort .
Lack of money?
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 11:40
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Too many voters lose cp the number of rich who win...............
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 15:50
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Anything less than this is imply unacceptable/


I have one back seat ride in this aircraft back in 2005 and still have a funny looking grin on my face. The airport shown in the video is San Jose, CA, south of SFO.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 18:25
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[QUOTE=chevvron;10562416]
All these films you see where someone is hit by a bullet . . . all you hear is the bullet striking . . . ; the bullet has to be supersonic[/ quote]

Yes

so you would hear the shockwave as it hits the target.
No. As the bullet is super sonic it follows that of would impact before the sonic wave.

The correct sequence would be a soft squelchy splat, the crack as the sound wave from the bullet catches up followed by the bang of it being fired.

Watching an A10 as quite spooky. We could see the eruption from the shell strike, the ripple banks as the impact noise arrived followed by the winding whoosh of the cannon firing. As we were off the firing line we didn't hear the flight noise.
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Old 5th Sep 2019, 23:27
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Spooky, is there much restriction to flying that F-5B supersonic? Can they do so over land? Assume it's and Dutch or Norwegian aircraft.
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 07:21
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Ah, not familiar with them! I see they are forming the vanguard of the queue!
treadders,

Not familiar with Ace McCool and his merry band that operated the Vickers "Mudguard"?

Then read on.
Remember the Vanguard?
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 08:57
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Blimey. Second hand Ace McCool book on Amazon for 154!

Not a supersonic private jet but I did see a Lear 35 leaving Biggin this morning, first I've seen in a long long time. Not quite as sexy as the 20 series Lears - the 23 looked great! - but it was nice to see one with tip tanks and unencumbered by aerodynamic refinements...
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Old 6th Sep 2019, 15:06
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Originally Posted by treadigraph View Post
Spooky, is there much restriction to flying that F-5B supersonic? Can they do so over land? Assume it's and Dutch or Norwegian aircraft.
There were only a couple offshore areas where that was allowed and in my case we always remain subsonic. To much hassle to get the required permission so I was told. The aircraft was originally from Norway.
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