Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Aviation History and Nostalgia
Reload this Page >

What was the first jet airliner to fly a commercial service from Leeds Bradford ?

Wikiposts
Search
Aviation History and Nostalgia Whether working in aviation, retired, wannabee or just plain fascinated this forum welcomes all with a love of flight.

What was the first jet airliner to fly a commercial service from Leeds Bradford ?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Apr 2016, 08:03
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
What was the first jet airliner to fly a commercial service from Leeds Bradford ?

I'm looking for a definite correct answer to this one. The aircraft seems to have been a BAC 1-11 in any event. Some folk say it was an Aer Lingus 200-series, others say it was a British Midland 500-series. It's before my time but my money is on the former.

Thankyou.
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 09:06
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Luton
Posts: 447
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I landed at Leeds in a a BMA 1-11 on the 21st August 1970 if that is any help.

We were en-route Glasgow to East Midlands, there was also a flight via Leeds using a Viscount, which went tech, so the two flights were combined.

There was a rumour at the time we were the first jet to operate into there. I know we used the whole runway for landing, then once the Leeds passengers were off we all had to mopve forward. We then sat on the brakes at the threshold before scraping off the end.
Level bust is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 10:34
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
LBA was one of the stops on Channel Airways' "bus-stop" service that routed Southend-Luton-EMA-Leeds-Teesside-Newcastle-Edinburgh-Aberdeen, starting in November 1967.

Although the service was normally a Viscount/748, they used a One-Eleven for the proving flight and (IIRC) on the occasional substitution.

So that's another possibility.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 10:57
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Thanks folks. I knew about the Channel Scottish Flyer service and the fact they owned 1-11s. But it never occurred to me that one of these might have visited LBA. I thought they were used for the bucket and spade flights, alongside the Tridents.

The intrigue deepens !
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 11:04
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cloud 9
Posts: 2,948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There was a L-1011 when I was there in 1985 if that helps:

Phileas Fogg is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 13:41
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: on the beach
Age: 68
Posts: 2,027
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Darn it, you beat me to it. Viscount would have been my best guess.
Evanelpus is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 13:46
  #7 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
We're talking between 1965 and 1970 so the infamous TriStar incident is way off.
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 14:59
  #8 (permalink)  

"Mildly" Eccentric Stardriver
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: England
Age: 77
Posts: 4,143
Received 224 Likes on 66 Posts
There was a L-1011 when I was there in 1985 if that helps:
The "Molly McReady Rose", whoever she was. Thank goodness we on the F27 could use r/w 28. There was one enterprising ice-cream seller who made a fortune over a couple of days.
Herod is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 20:40
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: east anglia
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The first jet to land at Lba was bac 111 of Aer Lingus. It carried the Leeds United football team from if memory serves me correct,Milan. Weather was poor and it was thought it might have to divert to Manchester . The reported an "interesting" landing.
plassey1 is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 03:04
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Cloud 9
Posts: 2,948
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The "Molly McReady Rose", whoever she was. Thank goodness we on the F27 could use r/w 28. There was one enterprising ice-cream seller who made a fortune over a couple of days.
Herod,

I was up there riding shotgun on a Titan from NWI with spare part(s).

To coincide with the L-1011 off the end it was also the day of the MAN air disaster so LBA was a tad busier than it normally would have been.
Phileas Fogg is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 06:39
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
Originally Posted by plassey1
The first jet to land at Lba was bac 111 of Aer Lingus. It carried the Leeds United football team from if memory serves me correct, Milan.
That certainly narrows down the possibilities.

According to Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leeds_...opean_football, Leeds played in European tournaments every season from 1965/66 to 1974/75 - though only once against (AC) Milan and that was the 72/73 Cup Winners' Cup final played in Greece.

If we stick with the Italian connection (excluding any possible friendlies), they played Torino in 65/66, Bologna in 66/67, Napoli in 68/69 and Juventus in 70/71 (all in the Inter Cities Fairs Cup).

Any Yorkshire aviation/football enthusiasts out there ?

Though that still doesn't help with the OP's question, which related to commercial services.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 06:43
  #12 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Thankyou plassey. That's what I thought.

Phileas, you're getting your dates mixed up. All 1985 but the TriStar incident was 27th May, the Manchester 737 wasn't until August.
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 07:49
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
Just found Flight's report on the aforementioned Channel Airways One-Eleven route-proving flight. Took place on 9th October 1967:

https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightP...20-%202044.PDF
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 14:46
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: east anglia
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Having checked my records the Aer Lingus flight would be before September 1966.
plassey1 is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 15:05
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 445
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Agree with Plassey1, it was the Aer Lingus BAC1-11! [Parked on the old stand 4 in front of the BKS Hangar].

H49
Helen49 is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 15:13
  #16 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Looks like we have quorum then (if that's the right posh word). Thankyou for your replies folks.

As an aside I'm sure I've seen a photo of said aircraft at Yeadon around this time. Must check leodis.
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 15:32
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Reading, UK
Posts: 15,822
Received 206 Likes on 94 Posts
Originally Posted by plassey1
Having checked my records the Aer Lingus flight would be before September 1966.
Possibly bringing Leeds United back from their goalless draw against Torino in the Fairs Cup on 6th October 1965? All four of EI's One-Elevens would have been delivered (just) by then.

That's the only Italian fixture that would fit.
DaveReidUK is offline  
Old 16th Apr 2016, 18:17
  #18 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Knowing nowt about football I can't say whether or not that was a good result for either team. However, not a bad result for Sellars and Co. at LBA, getting a passenger jet on the new runway the same year it was completed. And a brand-new British-built jet as well!
Mooncrest is offline  
Old 17th Apr 2016, 21:01
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Northampton, England
Age: 64
Posts: 468
Received 24 Likes on 20 Posts
The first jet airliner was, IIRC, EI-ANE of Aer Lingus. Certainly involved Leeds United and I thought their success in the Inter City Fairs Cup. Airport handbooks in the late sixties early seventies had a picture of Don Revie disembarking, possibly via the rear airstair.

I think EI were also first regular scheduled jet service with either 1-11 or 737 200 though others may have been before subbing for the regular prop types.

By 74 they were certainly only regular jet operator and that remained position until Britannia introduced IT flights to Med using Advanced 737s. Around 74/5 the Lingus flights were often operated by part cargo 737-204QC kit (EI-ASC/D) with cargo pallets being interchanged - though it was never clear what they contained
Airbanda is offline  
Old 18th Apr 2016, 12:19
  #20 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: LEEDS
Posts: 1,261
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Aer Lingus 737-200, known simply as "The Dublin Jet" in our home (forty-odd years ago). The BAC1-11 never had its own special name !
Mooncrest is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.