Vulcan and money

[ErwinS]

Just on a side note.

I am very very happy that I have seen the Vulcan on several occasions.
I only knew here from the books and never thought to see one active.

Altough it is a very costly operation I am very glad that she did get into the air.

Grtz
From NL

[wonderboysteve]

One assumes that it does bring in lots of spectators, but essentially the enthusiast type, not industry people. I must say I also have to wonder whether there is any monetary gain in sending the Vulcan there. I suppose the Vulcan people know but like everything they do, they don't tell us!

1) Not sure what point you are trying to make. The objective of the Vulcan to the Sky Trust is to demonstrate a flying Vulcan in front of the public. As Farnborough is one of the biggest airshows in the country and the aircraft is flying on the Friday (futures day) and weekend (public days), being there would seem consistent with the VTTST objectives

2) The VTTST website makes it clear about where the negotiations start in terms of charges for a display. There is also a great deal of information available about the costs of operating the aircraft. As a charity, the directors of VTTST are duty bound to operate in a way that ensures its stated objectives are best met, overseen by the trustees. One wouldn't necessarily expect the details of how attendance at Farnborough is projected to make money for VTTST (that could be at odds with the objective of displaying the aircraft in the future by damaging the negotiating position), but you are surely correct in your assertion that the 'Vulcan people' do know the answer, as the thousands of people who have backed the project would expect.

[WH904]

Well you can see what my point was if you read the previous posts. John Farley makes some valid points on that subject too and naturally he knows far more about the realities of flying at Farnborough than anyone else on this forum, I suspect! But regardless of the value of validation displays, I was simply suggesting that it should a case of paying for everything or getting nothing? Farnborough is indeed a big show but it's certainly not the event it once was, and I don't see why it should be regarded as being "special." If it is, then so is the Vulcan?

Yes, VTTS do publish a lot of information about their project, but they also keep an awful lot of information to themselves - we know this only too well, having argued over various aspects of the project ever since it started. That was the reason for my slightly sarcastic comment on that subject

[wonderboysteve]

WH904,

Apologies, I see that the first sentence of the quote was a response to the previous post.

However, as to your wider point, both sides obviously knew the score in advance. VTTST knew that the aircraft would need to conduct a validation display and would have attached a cost to that, to be factored into the quote to appear at Farnborough. VTTST would want the aircraft to fly there because it is a very large airshow (in an objective sense, compared to other events) and hence suits their objectives. Having invested in the project the supporters of the aircraft might reasonably expect the aircraft to be there. There are other, longer term reasons to be there too, as made clear in the most recent newsletter. As such, I'm not sure what it is that you think VTTST is hiding?

[WH904]

Not suggesting VTTS is hiding anything regarding Farnborough - I assume nobody else has even raised the issue.

[Capetonian]

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