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Old 8th Jan 2002, 09:16
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Just for fun Im going to list the aircraft Ill never get to fly by some sort of catagory and the reason why I would like to fly them.

Four engine radial piston.........I need help on this one ,its at Duxford and is a transport taildragger. Reason : because it is a four engine taildragger . Handley Page?

Four engine piston non-radial . Shackelton I like the sound of the Griffon engines.

Single engine piston........Seafury .. Because some no good rotten SOB at my home airport has one, its sounds fantastic, it looks fantastic. I have a mild O....... when it takes off.

Single engine jet .... Hawker Hunter Just a beautiful classic look.

One SE jet I could fly if I would just put out the bucks.........F 104... Must have looked like a space craft when it came out. And my dad designed the first ejection seat for it.

Four engine jet transport........ Boeing 707-138B......... I flew the B-720 a little and the performance when light was spectacular. the 138B had longer wings , and long endurance. Built especially for Qantas.

How about you ??????

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Well the -138B sure had good performance alright...I ferried two for Fred B. Ayer in 1975 to Stansted before delivery to THY. But the -138B had a parallel yaw damper which was a nuisance, the series (as on the -320B) was MUCH better.
The 707, a delightful aeroplane to fly.
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Polzin,

The four-engined piston radial Transport I think you are after was the Handley Page Hastings. None airworthy that I know of.
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[quote]Single engine piston........Seafury .. Because some no good rotten SOB at my home airport has one, its sounds fantastic, it looks fantastic. I have a mild O....... when it takes off. <hr></blockquote>

Thake a good look at the one near you. If it has a four bladed prop it dosent sound nearly as good as if it had a five
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Wycombe... Yes u are correct, now I remember.

Man on the fence..........Its a five blade. More and more of them show up at the Reno air races every year.
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Apart from the Spitfire & Mossie.
1. Any aircraft with a rotary engine (not radial).
2. Any aicraft with a wingwarping system.
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Glad to hear it. Nothing like a Centaurus a going at full whack <img src="cool.gif" border="0">
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MotF,

Couldn't agree more about the Centaurus! The Seafury is in fact the one I'd like to fly.

However, soaked up one of the Sanders brother's performance in their R-3350 powered Seafury at the Chino show in 2000. It was suberb to hear that sound [somewhat subdued in the -1049]!!

So, my vote, the Seafury [however powered!]

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For me, single engine: Bf109, Ju-87 (i'd love to dive in one with a siren fitted), a Spitfire, Hurricane, Mustang, P-40.

Multi: Mosquito, Lancaster, B17, Lockheed L-188 Electra.


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The Beaufighter, when we get her flying. Much as I'd love to fly her from the front seat, I'm sure I'll never be let lose on the controls. I'd happily settle for a back seat ride though...

Other than that little beauty, it's got to be a Spitfire. HAC's BM597 is top of my 'if only...' list for these.
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Dear Santa,

This year please can you get me a ride in an F-16. You lie on it, not sit in it. You can go fast and help people who deserve it. To a couple of Sidewinders.

If not a Lightning would do. That flies like it's ar$e is on fire.

I promise to be good and not shoot at your reindeer.

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Never flown the 707 (thought the VC10 sim was basically a 707 bodged) but I think you would love the 10. Faster, sleaker and much better looking (though I think the 707 is ok).

I love the VC10 I want to get back as soon as poss.

Tonks <img src="smile.gif" border="0"> <img src="smile.gif" border="0">

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Tonks - get your A2 first!

Teaching AT/AAR is even better now than it once was, I can assure you. This year so far I've done some AT role training to the USA and to Cyprus, some AAR instructing and some 'big cows, small cows' stuff in the sim. Doing some more AT training, some prodding training and probably more 'big cows, small cows' stuff next, then a month on a Det (hope the room isn't still full of your climbing kit and those god-awful pyjama things you used to wear!)

By the way, a vertically-challenged ex-UWAS A2 QFI of your acquaintance is going to be doing a FI course with us soon!!! Keep up the L-A-I and the S-H-T, mate!! WIGYC.....
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BEagle...
Just for sport....just how fast does the VC-10 cruise....and how far can it fly with a "reasonable payload"? Hours...endurance will do, with a close by alternate.
Civil aeroplane, of course.
I have the numbers for the 707 close at hand...
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411A - regrettably the '10 is now artificially restricted due to a change in engineering views concerning the 1960s 'fail-safe' construction. No longer may we cruise at an IMN of M0.88 as that guzzles fuel unnecessarily and isn't acceptable. So we usually cruise at an IMN of M0.84 - but there's no problem flying 133 PoB at FL310 and above on a 5+ hour sector at an IMN of 0.84 with a standard IFR alternate.....

Still crank her up to 0.9+ on air tests though....

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BEagle.......Happen to know how the Russian VC-10ski compared to real thing as far as performance and payload ?
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Sorry, no. But having watched them struggling airborne, I would think that the comparison would be in favour of the '10 rather than the '62.

Plus the Il62 didn't even have powered ailerons - but the huge control wheel it had probably gave them some help!
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IL62 doesn't have LE lift devices either.
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Sorry to digress, but what is an LE lift device?

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Kermit, LE = leading edge.

On the main topic, having always had a love of big fast piston engined types the one I would have loved to flown would be the Hornet.

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