Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Misc. Forums > Aviation History and Nostalgia
Reload this Page >

I need a flying 707. Seriously.

Wikiposts
Search
Aviation History and Nostalgia Whether working in aviation, retired, wannabee or just plain fascinated this forum welcomes all with a love of flight.

I need a flying 707. Seriously.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17th Oct 2011, 22:42
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: here,there,and everywhere
Posts: 1,186
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The Faa has one in ABQ Check in SAT every time I'm there I see one across the field
also Boeing 707 for sale by Alnafay Corp from 1968

By the way if you pick one of my choices, I'd love to ride along Really no mater where you find one I'd love to ride along....

Last edited by 737bomar; 17th Oct 2011 at 23:15.
737bomar is offline  
Old 17th Oct 2011, 22:42
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: somewhere
Posts: 117
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
707

Try Calling Pratt and Whitney they operate a 720 in Toronto as an engine test bed. If it works out you can send me a commission, lol


Good luck and let us know how you make out.
dss3000 is offline  
Old 18th Oct 2011, 00:34
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 1,393
Received 20 Likes on 6 Posts
Omega Air would be a good bet. They are currently preparing the 3 ex-RAAF 707-338C tankers for a ferry from Australia to the US.
Fris B. Fairing is online now  
Old 18th Oct 2011, 07:36
  #24 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Wales, UK
Age: 65
Posts: 6,062
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Incidentally, the one that was offered by Humes McCoy is N88ZL. I see there are a couple of other companies offering it as well!

Certainly from my own experience TV companies would expect to pay serious money for the use of aircraft, particularly if its in a flying sequence. However I cannot see them paying to have one flown in from overseas. The other issue of course with the surviving 707's is that many no longer have passenger windows! The Saha 707's are without doubt the most "original" but Iran is a long way and Saha are not permitted to land in the US, even if the distance issue were overcome.

Last edited by skytrain10; 18th Oct 2011 at 07:46.
skytrain10 is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2011, 03:58
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Accruing MilliSiverts
Posts: 562
Received 20 Likes on 8 Posts
I watched the first episode where at V1 the 2 pilots stopped everything, looked admiringly at each other and smiled. Yech!!

Still, I'm impressed they aren't using piston prop-liner engine noises when showing the 707!
Al E. Vator is offline  
Old 19th Oct 2011, 20:26
  #26 (permalink)  
Sir George Cayley
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Why didn't anyone say it was the Muppet Show?

SGC
 
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 07:41
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: London UK
Posts: 7,651
Likes: 0
Received 18 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally Posted by stepwilk
The U.S.NBC TV show "Pan Am" called and asked if I could help them find a flying 707 for use in the U. S. to pretend to be flying into Port au Prince. They'll find an airport somewhere in the U. S. that can stand in for Haiti, but they need the airplane at FRG, on Long Island, by the end of next week. (That's how television works...)
Maybe it's about time that television grew up then, and discovered proper planning and organisation, just like any other industry (and PARTICULARLY aviation) would do for any activity.

No, John Travolta's airplane won't work, they've already looked into that; it's too highly modified to be a stand-in for a 1960s airliner.
.
This makes me think that they are looking for interior shots of the cabin as much as externals - JT's 707 is as much pure 1960s externally as anything you will find, and even us lot would accept it, or maybe they said they were going to repaint one side in Pan Am colours and JT wouldn't do it (neither would I if fortunate enough to own one ), or his contractural arrangement with Qantas for the livery precludes it.
WHBM is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 08:44
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Dunnunda
Age: 63
Posts: 150
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I have read on another forum that Omega Air test flew all 3 ex RAAF 707 tankers at RAAF Richmond today - with departures to the US due tomorrow (2 aircraft) and Monday (the 3rd frame)
Art Smass is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 13:00
  #29 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe it's about time that television grew up then, and discovered proper planning and organisation, just like any other industry (and PARTICULARLY aviation) would do for any activity.
Maybe it's about time you got a job in television and fixed it all up. Meanwhile, they seem to be doing okay without you.

I suspect the problem with the Travolta airplane has more to do with the cockpit than the cabin.
stepwilk is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 13:18
  #30 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cornwall UK
Age: 79
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Maybe Travolta insisted on being Captain
A30yoyo is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 13:32
  #31 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Funny thing is, as I've learned during this 707 chase, Travolta is only rated as a 707 F/O. He cannot fly without a type-rated and current 707 captain in the cockpit. I don't know whether that means he doesn't have a type rating, or an ATP, or what. I'm sure the professionals reading this can quickly figure out what it means, but he sort of exaggerates his capabilities in the various wristwatch ads he does, it seems...
stepwilk is offline  
Old 22nd Oct 2011, 14:04
  #32 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cape Town
Age: 70
Posts: 440
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
He who pays the piper calls the tune.
skwinty is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2011, 09:23
  #33 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 2,864
Received 25 Likes on 18 Posts
Having had the odd bit of experience with the film industry, it is true that many situations happen in real time, director decides a different angle is needed, or the envisaged shot doesn't work and so on. However, if it involves background artists, cars, trucks, motorbikes, or even buildings it is doable (most times), but in this case for the producers to either not have pre-planned said B707 into their shooting schedule way ahead of time or realise that said aircraft type is as rare as a hen's tooth these days, or for that matter last 20 years is plane and simple bad business planning, especially considering the costs involved in film/TV production.

Realistic options ? 1) CGI mixed with museum steeds 2) Omega Air 3) USAF KC-135 4) N88ZL if not sold and with up to date airworthiness.



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2011, 13:47
  #34 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: New York City
Posts: 338
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Word has it that Travolta's 707 is coming into FRG today in Pan-Am colors...so perhaps that worked out after all?
MikeNYC is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2011, 15:15
  #35 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: There and here
Posts: 2,864
Received 25 Likes on 18 Posts
That will look good, I wonder if it will be staying in those evocative colours for very long after the filming ?



SHJ
SpringHeeledJack is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2011, 17:26
  #36 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Cornwall UK
Age: 79
Posts: 507
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Since Pan Am had 720Bs it shouldn't look too 'wrong' as it's a short-body 707-138B
A30yoyo is offline  
Old 23rd Oct 2011, 21:41
  #37 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Cornwall-on-Hudson, New York
Posts: 875
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Travolta's 707 won't be arriving at FRG this afternoon. Mechanical issues. I don't know what they are, but that's what NBC's rep has told me. The producers might begin wishing they'd thought more than 20 minutes in advance when they learn what "mechanical issues" can involve on a 50-year-old airplane.
stepwilk is offline  
Old 24th Oct 2011, 07:11
  #38 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Surrey Hills
Posts: 1,478
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Stepwilk said...
"Travolta is only rated as a 707 F/O. He cannot fly without a type-rated and current 707 captain in the cockpit."

Funny that, as he came all the way from the planet Theta presumably by something a little faster than a 707.

PS Thanks for your editorship of Flying and Car and Driver, Stepwilk.

Last edited by aviate1138; 24th Oct 2011 at 07:25. Reason: added stepwilk
aviate1138 is offline  
Old 24th Oct 2011, 10:31
  #39 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Doghouse
Posts: 363
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
S G C , where do you get the idea that NATO has a 707 in Luxembourg ? All nato awacs are based at Geilenkirchen in Germany, albeit with LX-... reg nbrs as well as serial nbrs . They occasionally do continuation training at Findel , but not based there.
sled dog is offline  
Old 24th Oct 2011, 10:44
  #40 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: se england
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 0
Received 48 Likes on 21 Posts
Hi
Is the show going to appear in UK anytime soon?

Also there seem to be more DC8s around why not use one of them. PanAm had both 707s and DC8s in 60s and early 70s and they look pretty much alike for the punters who will watch the trolley dolls more closely than the aircraft
PB
pax britanica is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.