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Here is a read only link to the Aerodrome Database - WhichAerodrome.xlsx. Up to date as of 1/5/2019. Catching up slowly - up to May 2019 now (Mar 2020).

Here are some "rules" for Which Aerodrome. These are based upon the original suggestions from the very first thread, and have a few additions. Also please be patient as when you are active others may be asleep.
  • A historic picture of an aerodrome will be posted. Newer pictures are allowed but the theme here is to compare/contrast old with new as well as identifying aerodromes which no longer exist.
  • The person who correctly identifies it will be declared the 'winner' by the original poster.
  • That winner shall either post another challenge or declare the floor open. Anyone may then post the next challenge.
  • If the winner of the challenge does not respond to the notification of their success within 48 hours, an Open house can be declared when there is consensus between multiple other posters which are on line.
  • When the poster of a challenge does not respond within 48 hours of a posted answer, this poster can be declared winner if the answer is considered correct in a consensus of multiple other posters.
  • If Open House is declared, regular posters should not jump in immediately, but time should be given for those who are not great at naming the correct location as they may have some good images.
  • There will only be one challenge running at a time.
  • Try to use elderly photos and not Google Earth, Zoom Earth or any other search engine, pics
  • Try to post images that are not already present on internet, as Google Image Search will find them if they are.
  • Personal photos are acceptable as they show the aerodrome as it is now.
  • When confirming the correct location, the location and winner should be stated to negate any deletion of posts.
  • Please don't delete your posts, let everyone see your successes, failures and challenges.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 06:56
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Thanks India Four Two.

I liked the idea of some details in the photo giving clues to research.
With the B-24 challenge I learned something about:
  • The 380Th BG operations in Australia
  • How to fly the B-24 and operate a Norden bombsight
  • Some history of RAAF 25 squadron
Then about the "secret" Corunna Downs airfield in Western Australia

There are good recent hi-res photos of Corunna Downs here
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http://dandjr.wordpress.com/2009/08/21/secret-airbase-revealed-corunna-downs/
and some rare photos when the base was operational
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFcIrvpcSO4
This all made a great little history lesson that I thoroughly enjoyed.
In contrast, using Google images or the "I guess a country" then "I guess a place" and "no - a bit further east etc," shotgun approach does not appeal so much.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 07:08
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the "I guess a country" then "I guess a place" and "no - a bit further east etc," shotgun approach
However, sometimes other poster's guesses help me zero-in on a geographic area, that perhaps hadn't occurred to me.

LFH's most recent cryptic comment seems to indicate this airfield is "in my back yard" but I still cannot think of a likely location.

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Old 26th Sep 2013, 07:25
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Good sleuthing TD! Thanks for posting the links.

Looking at those recent hi-res photos makes me realize just how much the revetments have deteriorated in the 45 years (gulp) since I was there.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 07:57
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Good morning Terry and Ifor. (And Dora.) I agree with all your remarks including about the low res. I did check the pic against GI and it came out nil, so considering its history, I was quite pleased with it. I tried GI again after Terry's remarks and now see that there's not a lot escapes the magic eye if you persevere. I haven't time or skill for "obfuscation" and suitable non-internet photos (such as personal or book sourced) are few and far. A lot of the good book stuff finds its way onto the net anyway.

"giving the appearance of clever research, while narrowing down the choices to the "correct answer". What's the point ?"
- and then say "Open House" rather too often .....


What we are currently discussing has given rise to a bit of mild aggro here in the last year or so. I am not sure if I have any suggestions. I'm off for a couple of days so I shall probably have to terminate this challenge in a couple of hours anyway. LFH


PS see three more posts since I started drafting this - -


LFH's most recent cryptic comment
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 09:18
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OK - shan't be around for a couple of days - If I may, I'll put this challenge on ice and declare Open House. LFH
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 13:09
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Been done before but an interesting historic pic - taken about 40 years ago,

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Old 26th Sep 2013, 13:22
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Ahh - camouflaged Frightnings.

Gutersloh ?

Issa Mk F2As innit.

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Old 26th Sep 2013, 13:26
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Absolutely.

Not a clue on the Mk, it was a teenage snap shot.

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Old 26th Sep 2013, 14:01
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Youngster.

92 Squadron.

The F2A was the only version in Germany.

Some called it the interim Mk6, but it had the old AI23 radar and Firestreaks.

At least it had GUNS.

Open house I'm afraid.
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Old 26th Sep 2013, 15:55
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3 of the old 92 Sqdn aircraft were 'disposed of' to RAE Farnborough. They still had a 'bite' though. When the wings were being cut off one of them, some residual fuel vapour ignited causing an explosion which injured the person doing the cutting up.
I was tower controller at the time and my 60 year old assistant was so quick with the crash alarm that the fire service said they heard the klaxon before they heard the bang.
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Old 30th Sep 2013, 19:20
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Try this -

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OK. I'll bite.
I can't see any passenger terminal with aerobridges, so it does not look like a major domestic or international airport. The small and medium sized hangars suggest private and business aircraft based there, and there is an industrial area in the foreground.
Is it in the UK?
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 01:19
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Cancel that UK question.
I see non-ICAO single digit runway designators.
And a what looks like a baseball playing field.
I'll go for North America now.

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Scheduled air services started just this year and that's 3 x C-130's top right.
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Old 1st Oct 2013, 23:21
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Aha. I had my suspicions that the cleanest bit of concrete with grey aircraft on it could have been military, but there was not enough detail to be sure.
Knowing they were C-130s and finding a list of their bases to check runway diagrams soon got a match with 142nd Airlift Squadron, Delaware ANG.

So it is:
New Castle Airport (KILG)
Wilmington Delaware USA

Interesting to know that Delaware was the only state in the USA that did not have a scheduled airline service until very recently.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 04:50
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Well done, New Castle it is, over to you.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 08:34
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OK. Let's have a bit of history then with this very old photo where the airfield has been tinted green.



Some clues to start with:
  • This airfield was opened in the 1920's and the land cost just over 5000 pounds.
  • The sale conditions allowed the original owner to graze horses on the land overnight.
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 16:27
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Essendon Aerodrome, Melbourne, Australia ?
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Old 2nd Oct 2013, 20:00
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That is it. Well done evansb -You have control.
I had several more hints ready, but you were too good. I guess the area reserved for the water tanks was a dead giveaway.
  • The fenced off area was kept by a water supply authority and now contains several large water tanks.
  • The airfield was expanded to the south in 1935 and 1943, and to the north in 1947.
  • Housing development has surrounded the airfield now and, as usual, residents are clamoring for the airfield to be closed, even though it was there first!
Here is what it looks like now.

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Old 3rd Oct 2013, 14:43
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Here is another mystery aerodrome:
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