BBC Film "The Pilots"
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There was one TV program with Capt Tom Stoney, TC on 707s, briefing a couple of new Hamsters, about Shannon training?
There was one TV program with Capt Tom Stoney, TC on 707s, briefing a couple of new Hamsters, about Shannon training?
Rainboe this film is available (but only on VHS I think) in the "Great British Airline Classics" series. It is called "Airline Pilot" and is an absolute beaut, with some wonderful air-to-air filming of touch and gos at Shannon.
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Capt Tom Stoney saluting Basil Smallpiece on the arrival of BOAC's first B707 into EGLL.....
AIRPORT NEWS - British Pathe
....who would appear to be the same fellow (Tom that is, not Basil) seen swatting the engineer's hands from the throttles in the SNN VC10 documentary.
One precedes the other by the best part of a decade. So very possibly a TC on both types.
AIRPORT NEWS - British Pathe
....who would appear to be the same fellow (Tom that is, not Basil) seen swatting the engineer's hands from the throttles in the SNN VC10 documentary.
One precedes the other by the best part of a decade. So very possibly a TC on both types.
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Tom Stoney was a Training Captain on VC-10s in 1968 at least, and although I have not seen the video, but whose ever hands he was swatting from the throttles it definitly was not the F/E as he had his own set of throttles on the VC-10 and never touched the pilots set. More likely the co-pilots
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It most definitely was the FE, and it's one of the magic moments of the documentary.
The FE reaches forward to initiate engine shutdown prior to 400' agl to have his hand swatted away with an admonishment.
The FE reaches forward to initiate engine shutdown prior to 400' agl to have his hand swatted away with an admonishment.
Apologies for adding to such an old thread, but I'm very keen to know if anyone had any success in locating a copy of the BBC documentary "The Pilots"?
I have several reasons for wishing to obtain a copy of the programme, my father worked for BOAC at the time, I had a good friend who was a BOAC 707 Captain in 1963, I have a strong connection to BSAA (and Ernest Rodley features in the documentary) etc. etc., but most significantly of all, I have recently been contacted by a friend who just found out that his late father was on the crew featured in the documentary.
My friend's father was Ian Carter, a BOAC Flight Engineer who was sadly lost in BA911 over Mount Fuji on that awful morning in 1966 (coincidentally three years to the day after the documentary was broadcast). It would be wonderful to locate the film for my friend, even if his father's appearance on screen may be very brief. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
Ian
I have several reasons for wishing to obtain a copy of the programme, my father worked for BOAC at the time, I had a good friend who was a BOAC 707 Captain in 1963, I have a strong connection to BSAA (and Ernest Rodley features in the documentary) etc. etc., but most significantly of all, I have recently been contacted by a friend who just found out that his late father was on the crew featured in the documentary.
My friend's father was Ian Carter, a BOAC Flight Engineer who was sadly lost in BA911 over Mount Fuji on that awful morning in 1966 (coincidentally three years to the day after the documentary was broadcast). It would be wonderful to locate the film for my friend, even if his father's appearance on screen may be very brief. Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
Ian
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The Pilots
I have a copy of this Richard Cawston film on DVD. The quality is quite good would you like me to send you a DVD copy. I have also unearthed a home movie shot by an old friend of mine (sadly now dead) who flew for BSAA and it records a flight during the Berlin airlift on a Tudor. I don't know who the crew were but they would be clearly recognisable to anyone who knew them.
Reg went on to fly for BOAC and flew the Comet 1 with Rod Rodley who is the captain of the 707 featured in the movie. He (Reg), finished his career in BOAC as a skipper on the 707.
Reg went on to fly for BOAC and flew the Comet 1 with Rod Rodley who is the captain of the 707 featured in the movie. He (Reg), finished his career in BOAC as a skipper on the 707.
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Did a search looking for DVDs of 'The Pilots' and 'Airline Pilot' on Ebay and this came up.
No use to me unfortunately as we don't have a video player any more
No use to me unfortunately as we don't have a video player any more
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John Mike Aston
Yep, John was my next door neighbour, and he starred in a BBC doucmentary c1973, which showed him take a BEA Trident One from Heathrow to Germany, in the cockpit. It also filmed him at home and in the crew room. It was probably a year after the Papa India crash, as he was a Training Manager and the workload had increased. A lovely guy who gave me my interest in aircraft, and was always willing to tell me anything I wanted to know. He did go n to Tristars and died in 2001 unfortuately suddenly. A very sad loss to his children, and I miss him a lot. I knew him as John.
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I too would be very interested in a copy of this documentary.
We have a reel to reel tape of the audio recorded by my Grandfather ; a 707 skipper at the time. I would live to see if he shows up anywhere in the film.
We have a reel to reel tape of the audio recorded by my Grandfather ; a 707 skipper at the time. I would live to see if he shows up anywhere in the film.
