BBC Film "The Pilots"
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BBC Film "The Pilots"
Wonder if any on the forum might know where I could get hold of a copy of "The Pilots"- a BBC Documentary produced in 1962/3 about life in BOAC and BEA at that time. I've tried the Beeb but they deny all knowledge of it - but I did see it, not post retirement delusions ! Any help would be much appreciated
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I'd like to get hold of a copy of that as well!
The beeb are good at denying all knowledge of docs theyve made I appeared in one on the simulator on VC10 and afterwards cos I was on the BALPA council at the time they had me chatting about pilots conditions etc They obviously wipe the tapes to re-use them and they are no longer available.
Mine was approx 1972, If anyone has a VHS tape of that Id appreciate knowing about it.
The beeb are good at denying all knowledge of docs theyve made I appeared in one on the simulator on VC10 and afterwards cos I was on the BALPA council at the time they had me chatting about pilots conditions etc They obviously wipe the tapes to re-use them and they are no longer available.
Mine was approx 1972, If anyone has a VHS tape of that Id appreciate knowing about it.
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From the late 1970s the wiping of tapes was discontinued but a lot of 1950 / 60 / 70s is gone forever alas. Lots of Pete and Dud, Doctor Who etc was JUNKED. The only reason some exist in the archives is the BBC got them back later from overseas sales they had made.
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I know that BA have a copy as we were shown it on a course that I did several years ago. I remember two F/Os chatting by the pool in Beirut. One, a Mr Walpole, said that he didn't think that he'd ever get a command in BOAC.
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There was one TV program with Capt Tom Stoney, TC on 707s, briefing a couple of new Hamsters, about Shannon training? Roundabout that time I was undergoing VC10 induction (which was a far more civilised aeroplane).
Tom was on one of our planes in the late 80s, long retired. He kept a camper in the States and spent years with his Ayatollah travelling the 3 main east-west routes, taking regular breaks back home.
The Hamster reunion had some video from one of those programs. Phil Nelson might be a good one to contact, I think he has access to an archive.
Tom was on one of our planes in the late 80s, long retired. He kept a camper in the States and spent years with his Ayatollah travelling the 3 main east-west routes, taking regular breaks back home.
The Hamster reunion had some video from one of those programs. Phil Nelson might be a good one to contact, I think he has access to an archive.
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OT sorry. Capt Tom Stoney was on the first eastbound BOAC Comet across the Atlantic. Can't recall the name of the chap going the other way at the same time..
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Can't help with a copy, but been discussed before....
http://www.pprune.org/aviation-histo...1966-67-a.html
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I bet the 'Beeb' have got a room full of Aviation/Transport memorabilia programmes....But NO they won't show them.
They insist on us living in Albert Square 5 nights a week, Or it seems that way..
If they (The Beeb) had an Illustrative Gorm' then they would sense that it would be nice to have a 'break from the old routine' and change the record every now & then!!
I don't want to pay 149.00 a year to listen to the same record spinning!!
They insist on us living in Albert Square 5 nights a week, Or it seems that way..
If they (The Beeb) had an Illustrative Gorm' then they would sense that it would be nice to have a 'break from the old routine' and change the record every now & then!!
I don't want to pay 149.00 a year to listen to the same record spinning!!
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The film that you are talking about featured a friend of mine Captain John -sometimes called Mike Aston who was a BEA Captain at the time. I think he later went on to Tristars and when he left went out to the Middle East to work for Saudia I think.
Unfortunately he died a few years ago.
He joined the RAF with me and we did our training in London Ontario together, when we were boys of 18.
Unfortunately he died a few years ago.
He joined the RAF with me and we did our training in London Ontario together, when we were boys of 18.
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I've been looking thru' my videos and have found one titled "The Pilots" - don't know what its like but I will check when I get back from the cruise. If its still ok I can copy it to DVD for those who may still be interested - PM me if interested.
It was Dave Jevons by the pool with Brian at Beirut. Only went there once as a slip - stayed at the Carlton on the Corniche - breakfast on the balcony overlooking the Med on a sunny March morning - ah memories!!
It was Dave Jevons by the pool with Brian at Beirut. Only went there once as a slip - stayed at the Carlton on the Corniche - breakfast on the balcony overlooking the Med on a sunny March morning - ah memories!!
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I remember the Carlton well. The four VC10 crew often were the only people in the restaurant. The cabin crew stayed at the Bristol and we would meet them at the Golden Bar. Managed to avoid 'Skinners Leap' on the way back to the Carlton.
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I remember the Carlton well. The four VC10 crew often were the only people in the restaurant. The cabin crew stayed at the Bristol and we would meet them at the Golden Bar. Managed to avoid 'Skinners Leap' on the way back to the Carlton.
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Happy Daze Indeed.
One of my chums relates the story of a Carlton slip-
Being totally exhausted having experienced 10 days with Dougie Cooper he decided to lay low,curtains closed,lights out ,no noise at the bewitching crew party hour. Having ignored several phone calls he lay prone congratulating himself on self preservation. Suddenly he was stunned to find Dougie leaping through his bedroom windows, after climbing perilously around the external walls of the hotel, demanding his presence for Golden Bar duty! That Dougie had no mercy!
One of my chums relates the story of a Carlton slip-
Being totally exhausted having experienced 10 days with Dougie Cooper he decided to lay low,curtains closed,lights out ,no noise at the bewitching crew party hour. Having ignored several phone calls he lay prone congratulating himself on self preservation. Suddenly he was stunned to find Dougie leaping through his bedroom windows, after climbing perilously around the external walls of the hotel, demanding his presence for Golden Bar duty! That Dougie had no mercy!
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I remember seeing this in the late '60s.
I know this because my interest in aviation only developed after EGNX opened in 1965 (hence, I believe, the original 'Castledon Approach' frequency of 119.65, - nice one, ECD and Mr.C!).
I think the film was transmitted as part of the 'Tuesday documentary' series.
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The BBC have also wiped the July 1969 Apollo 11 material with James Burke, Patrick Moore, et al . - A shame.
I know this because my interest in aviation only developed after EGNX opened in 1965 (hence, I believe, the original 'Castledon Approach' frequency of 119.65, - nice one, ECD and Mr.C!).
I think the film was transmitted as part of the 'Tuesday documentary' series.
P.S.
The BBC have also wiped the July 1969 Apollo 11 material with James Burke, Patrick Moore, et al . - A shame.
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There was one TV program with Capt Tom Stoney, TC on 707s, briefing a couple of new Hamsters, about Shannon training?
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The Pilots
I've just stubled across the dialogue that you had a couple of years ago about a BBC documentary made in 1962 called "The Pilots". My late Father, Denny Gray, (BEA captain) featured in this film and I would love to be able to get a copy for my Mother. I remember the Director, Richard Cawston and his crew coming to our house and filming in the garden.
Can you help?
Can you help?