True story?
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True story?
Many years ago, I was told by an ATCO the tale of when as a trainee at a smallish East Anglian airfield in the 1960’s, a call came from a neighbouring American airbase. They had a flight of fighters (Sabres, I presume) very low on fuel and requested that they over-fly his airfield at low level. Certainly! So, he loaded his Very pistol, intending to fire a red flare to send off the solitary non-radio aircraft in the circuit. But, mistakenly, he fired a green. At that moment, the flight of four turned up, obviously desperate, saw some tarmac, a green flare, - and so landed, - all four of them overrunning.
A recovery team was sent out to dismantle and retrieve the aircraft, at the conclusion of which they good-naturedly awarded a Very cartridge mounted on a plaque with an inscription celebrating his achievement in shooting down four aircraft with one bullet!
Any elucidation?
A recovery team was sent out to dismantle and retrieve the aircraft, at the conclusion of which they good-naturedly awarded a Very cartridge mounted on a plaque with an inscription celebrating his achievement in shooting down four aircraft with one bullet!
Any elucidation?
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Dunno, but here's three more:
Hunter pilot from Chivenor mistakes south coast of Wales for north coast of France, or something like that, and lands at Weston-super-mare. Small concrete patch for initial impact, but aircraft was dismantled for removal.
The famous Bruggen wing cockup. Diverted to Wahn. ATCO gets praise for standing on tower balcony firing a series of green verys while aircraft land in many directions
707 misses Kai Tak, overflies Lion Rock and lands at Sha Tin. I bet you didn't even know they had an airfield at Sha Tin. Like wise dismantled for removal
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Hunter pilot from Chivenor mistakes south coast of Wales for north coast of France, or something like that, and lands at Weston-super-mare. Small concrete patch for initial impact, but aircraft was dismantled for removal.
The famous Bruggen wing cockup. Diverted to Wahn. ATCO gets praise for standing on tower balcony firing a series of green verys while aircraft land in many directions
707 misses Kai Tak, overflies Lion Rock and lands at Sha Tin. I bet you didn't even know they had an airfield at Sha Tin. Like wise dismantled for removal
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Air France [twice] had to "overshoot" Woodford, and re position to Manchester...
USAF F111 doing [ultra] Low Level flyby at Woodford, [during the Woodford Air Show] gave everyone a treat, by flying at <100ft M 0.90 [1st time for everything.....] between the Tower and runway at Manchester [Ringway]....missing a BAC111 on Finals, and one that had just departed...
Mind you, it was cloudy.....
USAF F111 doing [ultra] Low Level flyby at Woodford, [during the Woodford Air Show] gave everyone a treat, by flying at <100ft M 0.90 [1st time for everything.....] between the Tower and runway at Manchester [Ringway]....missing a BAC111 on Finals, and one that had just departed...
Mind you, it was cloudy.....
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...then there was the Pan American 707 that landed at Northolt, not to mention the AN-22 delivering spares to the AN-124 at Farnborough in 1988 that tried to land on the cross runway (the southwest part of which was being used as a car park) and turned finals when over the active, landing on (well the port main wheels landed off, hitting the grass) and just stopped at the runway end and had to use reverse props to back and turn around.
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or about 15 yrs ago (?)the BA 747 that was making a night time ILS approach to Heathrow's 27R in clag and on making visual at a couple of hundred feet realigned with the A4 Bath Road thinking it was the runway..... he climbed out just in time narrowly missing one of the airport hotels..
IIRC the Heathrow incident resulted in tragedy. The captain claimed that the aircraft had aligned itself with the Bath road during the approach which was the reason for the mistake. Despite this he was held responsible and was suspended. This affected him so much that he eventually committed suicide. Some time later the same aircraft did exactly the same thing again.
In Singapore in the 80s, Paya Leber was the international airport but RAF Changi used to have its fair share of inadvertant arrivals. Lufthansa was the main culprit.
In Singapore in the 80s, Paya Leber was the international airport but RAF Changi used to have its fair share of inadvertant arrivals. Lufthansa was the main culprit.
Or the BOAC Connie which landed at Cartierville, mistaking it for Dorval. The World's Favorite Airline was forever after known locally as: 'Been Over At Cartierville'.
In fact, maybe that's why it was re-branded??
In fact, maybe that's why it was re-branded??
Juhu Airfield, Bombay, had a DC-8 arrive unexpectedly back in 1972, link. It mistook Juhu for SantaCruz, and landed on a too short runway, finishing up in local houses after transiting a monsoon ditch.
I've a vague recollection that a Caravelle (or similar) did the same, but managed to stay on the runway, and departed after some severe weight reduction
I've a vague recollection that a Caravelle (or similar) did the same, but managed to stay on the runway, and departed after some severe weight reduction
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233sqn -
The incident you refer to is about the G-AWNO 747-136 on 21 NOV 1989...
Google it as the "November Oscar Incident"
The details are worth being read.
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Google it as the "November Oscar Incident"
The details are worth being read.
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G-AWNO incident. Stephan Wilkinson of 'Flying' Magazine wrote a superb article in defence of Capt. S. Huge pressures on him. Malfunctioning auto pilot, and a far from well First Officer.
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Didn't a B52, due to give a flying display at Farnborough, with its thousands of attendees, give it instead at Blackbushe?
I find that a tad worrying.
I understand both spectators enjoyed the show immensely.
I find that a tad worrying.
I understand both spectators enjoyed the show immensely.
I've a vague recollection that a Caravelle (or similar) did the same
As you said, all the seats out and minimum fuel to stagger to Santa Cruz. Very embarrassing.
Didn't a B52, due to give a flying display at Farnborough, with its thousands of attendees, give it instead at Blackbushe?
I find that a tad worrying.
I understand both spectators enjoyed the show immensely.
I find that a tad worrying.
I understand both spectators enjoyed the show immensely.
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the crew of an aircraft which can navigate half-way across the world to strike a pinpoint target would just somehow fail to find its display destination, especially if it was receiving an ATC radar service at the time.
How's that for selective quoting? You've just gone and spoilt a good story, Liffy.
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Liffy 1M. Not the first time it's happened in England.Some years ago, a Duxford show was to be opened by an F.4 Phantom from Lakenheath. The commentator was in contact with it, and when it was due, it failed to arrive, but turned up 20 mins later.A couple of Tiger Moths circuit bashing at CAMBRIDGE had a nice view of it as it hurtled down the main runway at 100 feet and God knows how many knots. I can vouch for this, as I was at the show, and the resultant investigation was reported in the Safety Section in 'Pilot' magazine some months later. Presumably the crew were sentenced to 'flying transports full of rubber dog s..t from Hong Kong' Quote from Top Gun, of course.
Found the old B-52 thread, here:
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ckbushe-6.html
The relevant information is in post #107 : ".... the ATC gents decided to vector them and they followed, knowing they were being put out of position. When they were 2 miles from the approach end 3 miles to the left they were cleared for their "hard right turn to line up"! This obviously was not doable and they flew a safe path. The ATC gents now know a B-52 cannot pull 5 g's to overfly a runway full of spectators. The situation has been resolved and they have made their fly-by's on time and target since. "
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...ckbushe-6.html
The relevant information is in post #107 : ".... the ATC gents decided to vector them and they followed, knowing they were being put out of position. When they were 2 miles from the approach end 3 miles to the left they were cleared for their "hard right turn to line up"! This obviously was not doable and they flew a safe path. The ATC gents now know a B-52 cannot pull 5 g's to overfly a runway full of spectators. The situation has been resolved and they have made their fly-by's on time and target since. "
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I find it very hard to believe that the crew of an aircraft which can navigate half-way across the world to strike a pinpoint target would just somehow fail to find its display destination, especially if it was receiving an ATC radar service at the time.
Never had any problems with RAF display acts at those shows.