Airworthy Avro Anson

[brakedwell]

hallibagger, I used to built R/C flying models of aircraft I had flown. One was a 1/8th scale Anson Mk 19 using drawings from BAE Woodford. The father of one our Manchester cabin crew worked in the records office there. He printed out a set of very detailed drawings stored on old Avro microfilm. I suggest you contact them.

[PaperTiger]

Originally Posted by hallibagger

Do you have any idea who might be making a Mk I airworthy in Canada?

I believe it's Tom Coates in Saskatoon. A Mk.1 Annie was recently registered to him (C-GTCU) but the "serial" given was R3/LW/96801 which nobody seems to be able to trace. Imported from the UK according to the CCAR, although I assume it was a basket case and not an assembled airframe.

[tinpis]

There was /is ? an airworthy at Essendon Vic in 1986

[hallibagger]

Canadian Airworthy Ansons?

Thanks, brakedwell, Paper Tiger and tinpis for those leads.

The last I heard BAE was declining to provide any drawings for liability reasons. Maybe if it is for static display only they might re-consider!?

I will give them a try.

The Tom Coates lead sounds encouraging.


Thanks guys.

Hallibagger

[brakedwell]

Why not tell them you are going to build a model Anson! This was the result of my set of drawings.

[norman atkinson]

Those Airworthy Ansons

RAF 31 Squadron had 19's and 12's at Hendon.

Does anyone have a photo of one flying around the ski jump at Hamstead Heath?

[Brian Abraham]

hallibagger, you might try the Smithsonian Institute as well, bit of a long shot on them having plans being a Brit aircraft, but what they do have can be surprising. Extremely helpful, though it may cost. From experience just state in any request to them EXACTLY what it is you want. Turnaround time to a request can take up to a month if my experience is any guide.

[hallibagger]

Airworthy Anson.

Brakedwell - nice job with the Annie.

Reminds me of my RAF days in the 50's when we had an Oxbox and an Annie to haul wheels around for the Hunters which only had a life of about 5 landings. Anytime the last landing was away from base new wheels had to be delivered and the wheels changed. Got a few flights in that way.

[norman atkinson]

Ubiquitos Annie

Ok, fellas but with a memory, the 19's had an an Air Pubs Numbers of
2525 and 2526 for the airframes and cheetahs.

RAF Hendon now the Museum claims that it has all the AP's/
It may help someone. Good Luck!

[Torres]

Near complete Anson at Roma airport in Australia:

[hallibagger]

Re: Anson Drawings.

OK, Torres that looks exactly like the one we are trying to restore to static display condition!

Here is an update to my search for drawings:

Tom Coates of Saskatoon, Canada, has indeed registered an Anson which he apparently obtained from Britain. I have been unable to get in touch with him but I am told that he has a hangar full of parts and it is unlikely to fly in the near future. We would still like to be able to talk to him as we may be able to use the same set of drawings, if we ever get them.

The New Zealand Aviation Museum has a set of drawings and I am in touch with Bill Reid who is getting a Mk I ready to fly. He has some 5,000 drawings but he had to sign a "No copy", "No loan", agreement in order to get them from the museum.

The RCAF Memorial Museum, our museum, is looking into our making a similar arrangement with the New Zealand Museum. The stumbling block is the cost to copy some 5,000 full sized drawings!

I did contact BAE Woodford and they have passed me down the chain to their Heritage department and they do indeed have a lot of Anson drawings but they are in poor shape and they have never been catalogued. They have agreed to take a look at the collection to see exactly what they have.

My thanks to evryone who helped out.

[The Flying Pram]

hallibagger, I'm sure I've seen some Anson drawings in my fathers original WW2 "Aeroplane Spotter" magazines. They would only be general outline drawings, not detailed ones. If likely to be of use I could scan them for Email.
Let me know.

[hallibagger]

Hey, Flying Pram,

Thanks, we do have a few rough outline drawings but not sufficient detail to allow for a Museum quality restoration. I doubt the detail that the Aeroplane Spotter went to would add to our knowledge unless it was a big detailed cutaway.

However, it does give me an idea that maybe Flight or Aeroplane might have done one of those cutaway drawings during the war years.

I too used to get the Aeroplane Spotter but when I left for Canada my mother took to opportunity to dispose of 'all that old muck'.

Hmm, I wonder how far back Aeroplane and Flight records go?

Thanks Flying Pram for your input.

Hallibagger

[brakedwell]

Halibagger, you can copy this if you like!!!!

[PaperTiger]

Umm, that's not a Mk 1. Back to the spotter books for you m'lad.

[brakedwell]

Well spotted, it's a Mk X1X.

[hallibagger]

Thanks Brakedwell, I will forward it to the shop maybe it will keep them interested until we can find some original Annie drawings.

Hallibagger

[The Flying Pram]

hallibagger, I've been up in the roof and found the relevant magazine. It is only a single page with a complete Anson in partial cut-away view. It's a Coastal Reconnaissance version with upper rear gun turret. The drawing is credited to a "J.H.Clark" and is (or was!) copyrighted to "The Aeroplane" which father says is the company behind the Aeroplane Spotter magazine.
I'll gladly Email it to you if you P.M. me with your details.
Regards.

[XH175]

Hi Hallibagger,

If it is the tube dimensions you need I have a copy of the repair manual which gives a table of tube lengths, diameter, gauge referenced to the frame drawing forthe three basic fuselage variants. The lengths are un- trimmed but in conjuction with a dimensioned frame drawing also in the manual it is possible to accurately position each tube joint.

Would this be of help?

Regards
Ross

[Davaar]

I do not know where it is now or how airworthy, but in the 1980s the Western Museum at Moose Jaw, SK, was rebuilding an Anson.