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Old 3rd Jun 2008, 17:14
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evansb, I walked all around that aircraft once when it was in Albuquerque, New Mexico. It looked the same as pictured except the test probe extending from the radar dome had be removed and a normal radar dome had been installed. The engines were installed on what was termed 'soft mounts' under the wings. You could put your hand on one of the engines and push the engine from side to side. I can't imagine what that looked like airborne in just mild turbulence.

You probably already know the history of the Mc Donnell 220, that it was built in competition to the Lockheed Jetstar for an Air Force contract. I was told that the primary reason the 220 lost was because the under-slung engines were too close to the ground and the Air Force were concerned about FOD danger. I don't know if this is true or not, however, number 2 and 3 engines are/were very close to the ground.

Never the less, it is a very beautiful aircraft. (Or was, I lost track of it, I don't know if it has survied or not.)

I'll see if I can find out.
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Old 3rd Jun 2008, 18:33
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Hey !
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showpos...8&postcount=18

The sole survivor (N4AZ) having spent long periods at both ABQ and ELP is now registered to Fresh Fuel Inc. of IWA (Phoenix/Williams). The company has other esoteric machines - F104, T2V, Magister - so I'd say it's in good hands .

Will it ever fly again ? One can but hope.
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Old 9th Jun 2008, 17:18
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French style

Did anyone hear the sketch on Radio 4 last weekend, saying the French were so snooty the original Concorde design had the nose go disdainfully upwards for landing ?

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Old 10th Jun 2008, 04:25
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Of all the Gaul! Did they mention the Russian SST's failure was due in part to a crease in a copied set of Concorde blueprints?
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 07:36
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On the whole, I think that this should be a competition for second place.

Best looking, surely in the piston and turbine categories, are the Spitfire and Concorde.

Second,hmmm

I'll offer one for second place in the turbine category...



And in the piston category, which is probably too new for you lot...



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Old 20th Nov 2010, 09:13
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Yes well this 'best looking' business is of course entirely subjective but still .. it requires multiple categories. In the post-WWI biplane category I would certainly continue to tender the Beech D17 posted (above)!

In the jet fighter category there is little question that Genghis' SEPECAT Jaguar (above), especially in black, is a handsome craft.

In the home-build category the Vari/Long Ez (or sleeze as it is sometimes known) is of interest (but not in my view beautiful). Most people attribute this design to a chap called Burt Rutan without realising that it was our own George Miles who actually pioneered this wing arrangement!



George Miles holding a model of the canard wing 'Libellula' which he went on to test fly.
Photo: 1944

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 09:43
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Thought this might have got a mention before now...



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Old 20th Nov 2010, 11:47
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The Beaufighter with Bristol Herc engines No1

The Hellcat with bubble canopy No2

Tempest No3

Spit No 4

Mossie No5

Mustang Bubble Canopy No6

Lanc No7

Liberator No8

Lightning N09

Phantom N10

IMHO

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 13:02
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this one has to be included haha G-MKXI - The Real Aeroplane Company Supermarine Spitfire PR.XI Aircraft Photo @ Airplane-Pictures.netApparently the pink colour was used as camaflague when the sun was low in the sky but pilots didn't like it as it made them feel vulnerable! It is a Supermarine Spitfire PR. XI.

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Spit in 'desert' colours

~ Hannah

Were you aware that in addition to the Spits there were 'desert' Jaguars used in GWI also painted pink!



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Old 20th Nov 2010, 14:25
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I was careful to pick the much more slender Jaguar T2, the chunkier GR1 just isn't as pretty. (Mind you, both were pretty ineffective warplanes!) Overwing sidewinders, well, I'm sure they worked - but they really did look utterly wrong !

If we want to get picky about the origin of the canard pusher, that's of-course Messrs Wright. Like all other aircraft types, it got improved upon over the years.

Close up, perhaps the most beautiful of the family is the Berkut...



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Old 20th Nov 2010, 15:10
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Supermarine Scimitar

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 16:57
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Angel Sheer powerful beauty

Thanks, ionagh, for that shot of the TSR2 - of all the beautiful aircraft I've seen (and of course, so many that I haven't) that, for me is THE ONE - and only partly because I was drooling to fly it when I drove aeroplanes at low level for a living.
Sometimes I dream of doing very nasty things to the eejuts who got it cancelled ...
Apart frm that, Concorde, Hunter and the A330-300 also "do it" for me, plus the Spitfire, Tempest, Canberra, Dassault Falcon and Mirage IV, Caravelle and, and and ...
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Old 20th Nov 2010, 16:59
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This is far and away the best looking aeroplane ever:



And this (the jet one, not the ones with whirly things) reminds us how graceful even subsonic airliners used to be....

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 19:16
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Genghis Sr. was an apprentice at Supermarine and used to build Scimitars, and as such it's always fascinated me.

But that aside, I really can't see it as a beautiful aircraft.

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Old 20th Nov 2010, 19:44
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Sleek and Simple

Just has to be a Luton Minor with a J A P engine of course.
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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 04:26
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i think you might have first and second SSD some of the others only a mother could love. mike.
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Somebody mentioned the Victor.

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 12:26
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I concur with Earl of Rochester regarding the beech "Staggerwing"

Here`s my effort; it even looks good sitting on the ground (at Duxford, this Summer)

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Old 22nd Nov 2010, 13:24
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Aérospatiale-BAC Concorde

Concorde will forever and always be the most graceful machine to have ever taken to the skies in my opinion.



R.I.P old pointy.
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