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Old 17th Apr 2007, 13:41
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Sorry BSD this one is not the cockpit of the Enforcer or the Cavaliar.
I know the aircraft you are referring too. Cavaliar Aircraft Corp acquired the design rights in the original P-51 from North American in the 1960s. In 1968 Cavaliar flight tested a modified P-51 as the Turbo-Mustang III powered by a Rolls Royce Dart engine. They then set about a more ambitious turbo-prop conversion using a 2,455 s.h.p. Lycoming T55-L-9. Two airframes were put in hand. First flown on April 19 1971, this conversion was named Enforcer and that same year Piper Aircraft acquired full rights from Cavalier.
In Sept 1981 a contract was placed with Piper for the construction of two new prototypes which became the PA-48 Enforcer. These were also powered by the Lycoming T55-L-9. and flew April 9 and July 8 1983.
The challenge aircraft was not a turbo-prop and this paricular aircraft type first flew later part of 1950s.
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Old 17th Apr 2007, 23:37
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Time for another clue, Mel. Like Kitbag, I thought the assymetric coaming looked like a helicopter, but since it isn't, does this aircraft have side-by-side seats?
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No, in this aircraft type the aircrew sat in tandem but the aircraft was not a training aircraft.The photograph is of the pilot's instrument panel.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 01:47
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the aircraft was not a training aircraft
Tandem two-seater, not a trainer - perhaps COIN? It's not a Bronco cockpit, so how about its competitor, the Convair Model 48 Charger?
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Sorry Simon as stated at Post #1131 and # 1141 the subject aircraft had a Gas Turbine engine and was not a turbo-prop.
To recap this aircraft was designed and built in the USA around mid 1950s, this particular type first flew towards the end of the 1950s. It was not a training aircraft and was not COIN it had two crew seated in tandem.It also had two engines.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 13:22
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Martin B57 (Canberra)?
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Not the Martin B57 (Canberra) the engines on the subject aircraft were considerably a lot closer together than those on the Canberra.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 14:42
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North American Vigilante? Forget the designation, A3??
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 15:37
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Northrop F-89J Scorpion
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Sorry Gentlemen, this was neither the North American Vigilante nor the Northrop F-89J Scorpion. This aircraft was not a Naval aircraft but was a similar type to the Scorpion.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 16:21
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F94 Starfire?
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Sorry not the Lockheed F-94 Starfire. The subject aircraft was a twin engined aircraft.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 17:06
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Voodoo RF-101, possibly the A model?
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It is the correct answer. It is in fact a McDonnell Voodoo F-101B. See the following site for other photographs of the cockpit.
http://detailsite3.tripod.com/f101/f101page.htm

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Old 18th Apr 2007, 17:44
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What's the display with the wavy lines and Dolls Eyes centre bottom of the panel? - Gear???
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What's the display with the wavy lines and Dolls Eyes centre bottom of the panel? - Gear???
Not sure, it doesnt seem to appear on other Voodoo F101 panels.
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I had that same discussion with an old and bold aviator this afternoon. One of the reasons that I opted for B57 was the shape given on that diagram. It is a wild guess as we could not reach a conclusion, but either fuel tanks or undercarriage were favourites. The red instrument to the left is anybodies guess.
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 18:38
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Mel, That was an interesting exercise.

I think the wavy lines and dolls eyes relate to underwing and centreline stores carriage, possibly emergency ejection (which of course should have told me it wasn't an RF-101). I saw the same instrument in another attack aircraft cockpit picture. The three digit display to the left could be a DME readout with an Off flag. I was amused to see the 2000 fpm descent rate.

A small digression before continuing. I found this while following the COIN blind alley. A fascinating history of how the OV-10 Bronco came to be. It started off as an unofficial homebuilt project!
See http://www.volanteaircraft.com/ov-10.htm

How about this one. Looks can be deceiving:
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Old 18th Apr 2007, 20:18
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I have flown on a OV10 Bronco, and let me tell you, it rattles so much your fillings fall out. Fantastic view from the cockpit, inluding vertically below! ...not an aeroplane that I would want to spent another second in flight on.
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Old 19th Apr 2007, 00:16
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The panel has the look of a Bolkow Monsun..even shades of GA5. but nothing else fits. Considered the Dornier D0-27... but rejected it for various reasons.

I`ll start the ball rolling, is it an early Maule, M4 perhaps?
But you said looks could be deceiving so I don`t hold out much hope.
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