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Old 20th Jul 2007, 16:30
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the incivil beast challenge.

Sorry, not Yugoslav either (but the continent is correct).
BTW, it is older than both your suggestions.
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A PZL.50 Jastrzab?
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 11:17
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Sorry Mel, not Polish either.
You have to look towards the "other side".
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European Not Russian,Polish or Yugoslavian, hint is look towards the "other side". Well both Russia and Poland were to Allies. Certainly is not an Me109,110 or FW190 or any other German aircraft that I know so must be a Italian yet instruments do not appear to so.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 12:26
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Not Italian either, the country it comes from was home to a famous aerodynamicist (not von Kármán, so Hungary is ruled out)
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The Avia Av-135 perhaps?
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Quite a clever guess, one must say, as Vincenc Strouhal (who was Czech) worked on vortex instabilities before Von Kármán : see here

But is is not the Avia Av-135 which started its life on the allies' side. Things changed on March 15th 1939 (WWII somewhat started a bit earlier in some places )

However, you could find another clue on AH&N, these days.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 13:44
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We will try Ludwig Prandtl's home country Germany and the Heinkel He100D perhaps?
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 13:46
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the incivil beast's challenge.

Sorry Mel, it's not German either.

The last hint relates to a post not far from this one ...
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Well the Dewoitine 520 was mentioned when the Avia Av-135 was last mentioned. However the Dewoitine also took part in the Battle for France on behalf of the Allies.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 14:15
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French it is neither (and IIRC the Dewoitine 520 already ran)

The country we are talking about joined the axis' side in 1940 (Vichy France didn't join the axis and it didn't fight against the allies except for some skirmishes)

The clue is another (quite recent) post on AH&N

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Must be the weather cannot see the wood for the trees. Axis Power well Roumania was on the Axis Side so I will try the I.A.R. 80.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 15:16
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And the I.A.R. 80 it is !
I recommend reading the "references" article (link at page bottom)



The aerodynamicist was Henri Coandă, the clue was prince Constantin Cantacuzino (who didn't fly IAR-80s but Bf-109s)

Well done Mel !
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Thanks the incivil beast. That was a very interesting challenge, I must admit I was suffering from a case of tunnelled vision in that I was not looking outside of this thread when considering your clue regarding AH&N.
This next one should be much easier.
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 17:43
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Mel's challenge

Armstrong-Whitworth Argosy ?
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 18:32
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I said it would be easy.. It was the Armstrong Whitworth A.W.650 Argosy
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 19:31
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Next challenge.

Thanks Mel
I wasn't that sure of myself
here is the next one

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Old 21st Jul 2007, 20:26
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Is the aircraft from France?
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 20:27
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Oui Monsiuer !
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Old 21st Jul 2007, 21:24
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Sud-Ouest SO.9000?
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