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Old 8th Sep 2006, 10:46
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Sad to see the loss of any aircraft especially an historic one.

Glad to see the crew got out OK, best wishes to them and hope the are not too shaken up.
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Old 8th Sep 2006, 17:09
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Just want to echo what Tudor has written. I have only bumped into Alan a few times whilst training at DX and a perfectly decent guy. Speculation does no good at all and certainly does nothing to help those of us who wish to keep historic and interesting aircraft in the air and participating in displays.

The activities at DX are different from those at commercial airports and that does bring a degree of additional risk but it doesnt mean that the pilots are inherently unsafe. They probably think a great deal more about the safety of their chose sortie than most GA pilots or operators of aluminum tubes do.

A loss of a piece of aviation history but no loss of life.
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Old 10th Sep 2006, 19:12
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John F,

There are three aspects that stem from the age of an aircraft.
Is there not a fourth - material (primarily metal) failure, whether this is by fatigue, embrittlement, corrosion or other cause?

Obviously, I am not referring to the sort of visible wear and tear that you refer to in aspect 1), rather the sort of failure that only becomes apparent after examining the resultant failure surfaces!

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Old 11th Feb 2008, 20:10
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Report is now out.

www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/Lockheed%20T-33%20Silver%20Star%20Mk%203,%20G-TBRD%2012-07.pdf

Seems that the pilot over-rotated and was trying to fly with too much AoA. Fortunately, he survived and will now become and an "old and bold" pilot - I guess he owes his engineer mate a few beers as well

Glad to see that Al is up and about after such a horrendous accident and I agree he is a thoroughly top chap.
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Old 11th Feb 2008, 21:31
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I guess he owes his engineer mate a few beers as well
The engineer was recognised by GAPAN at their Awards Banquet last year. See page 9 - The Hugh Gordon-Burge Award.

The Hugh Gordon-Burge Award is for a member or members of a crew whose outstanding behaviour and action contributed to the saving of their aircraft or passengers.

Well deserved!


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Old 12th Feb 2008, 12:58
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Seems that the pilot over-rotated and was trying to fly with too much AoA.
a.k.a. Back side of the power curve. This was the cause of many accidents in early jets, and it killed WWII Ace Dick Bong when he was new to the P-80. It also caused a horrific accident (Canadair Sabre) in Sacramento in the 70s.
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Old 6th Jan 2009, 16:48
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Anyone can access the very comprehensive AAIB report for a most lucid account available, and I see no reason to subject the pilot to a re-run of a most unfortunate accident in which he was lucky to survive.

Al Walker is a friend who I once sent solo in a Tiger Moth. I have no compunction in stating now that unless he expressly tells me that he is content for the "lucid details" to be aired - it will not happen.


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