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I'll be there, and will be in need of a purely medicinal snifter afterwards... Sorry you won't be BEags, hope to see Tudor and the rest of you - you still coming PPPop?
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Well until about 10 minutes ago I was! Now I have a problem which could make a difference. I was planning to get the 1630 from Sutton, if I miss that there is the 1653, if I miss that..............it means my problem has not been solved and I won't make it. 
But I am sure gonna try.
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But I am sure gonna try.
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AAAArrrrgghhhh! My code is getting worse - I think it's going to be a rain check and an early night, lest I pass it all to you lot. Enjoy it; I hope I shall join you all for a drink in the near future... AH&N drinkies anybody?
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A fascinating and highly entertaining talk. Well done, Andy - and many thanks to Tudor for giving us the heads-up on this 
I reckon that anybody who can keep a rotary running would give my highly skilled son a good run for his money on a Playstation control pad!
I reckon that anybody who can keep a rotary running would give my highly skilled son a good run for his money on a Playstation control pad!
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Yep, tks Tudor!!
I felt that Andy had only scratched the surface -there's more where that came from.
I'm still trying to get my head around the one armed paper hangar act of flying a wing warping, rotary engined machine...
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I felt that Andy had only scratched the surface -there's more where that came from.
I'm still trying to get my head around the one armed paper hangar act of flying a wing warping, rotary engined machine...
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Cracking talk, and as a nice bonus to all that one armed paper hanging in the cockpit of those rotaries.....a instant cure for constipation thanks to all that castor oil, what more could you want.......
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Fying Historic Aircraft--notes
Is there any chance the notes, by the kind permission of the speaker-of course, be posted so us poor colonials, and any others who could not get to the venue, be able to read the proceedings of the night, Please?
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Hey, thanks for the kind words, chaps - FL, BEags, PPP et al who didn't make it, sorry to miss you, too.
1946 - There are no notes for the talk, I don't use them - it comes straight from brain to mouth with the PowerPoint slides reminding about what I need to say next. I can send you a copy of the PowerPoint file if you want to see the bullet points, but it'll be abridged as some of the photos are a little large . Otherwise, you'll have to get in touch with the RAeS, they may have recorded it. If you want the file, PM me.
If you are really interested in what went on at the RAeS last Tuesday, I'm talking again this weekend at the HAA* Symposium at the RAF Museum Hendon on Sunday (17th Oct - Thanks BEags!!). There's four lectures on in all, of which mine is one. I've expanded part of the RAeS talk to do an hour or so on 'Flying a Rotary'.
Again, thanks to all for the kind words,
Andy
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1946 - There are no notes for the talk, I don't use them - it comes straight from brain to mouth with the PowerPoint slides reminding about what I need to say next. I can send you a copy of the PowerPoint file if you want to see the bullet points, but it'll be abridged as some of the photos are a little large . Otherwise, you'll have to get in touch with the RAeS, they may have recorded it. If you want the file, PM me.
If you are really interested in what went on at the RAeS last Tuesday, I'm talking again this weekend at the HAA* Symposium at the RAF Museum Hendon on Sunday (17th Oct - Thanks BEags!!). There's four lectures on in all, of which mine is one. I've expanded part of the RAeS talk to do an hour or so on 'Flying a Rotary'.
Again, thanks to all for the kind words,
Andy
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Andy, check your PMs.
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Nice one!
My colleagues and I ( my co. manager and my bean counter!) thoroughly enjoyed it Andy, thanks a lot.
A pity you didn't tell them the whole story about your first fright in the Hurri.
I believe what you said after landing was 'Either I've discovered the best kept secret of World War 2 or there's something wrong with this f@@@@@g aeroplane.'
Very few of us hobby pilots will ever fly a rotary but there is just a chance that a certain replica WW1 machine could come my way...
Mind you, after Tuesday I think I should leave Rotaries well alone ( my bowels are sensitive enough without the castor oil and the inevitable fright)
Nice one Andy
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A pity you didn't tell them the whole story about your first fright in the Hurri.
I believe what you said after landing was 'Either I've discovered the best kept secret of World War 2 or there's something wrong with this f@@@@@g aeroplane.'
Very few of us hobby pilots will ever fly a rotary but there is just a chance that a certain replica WW1 machine could come my way...
Mind you, after Tuesday I think I should leave Rotaries well alone ( my bowels are sensitive enough without the castor oil and the inevitable fright)
Nice one Andy
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Andy,
Your presentation at the HAA symposium was excellent as the applause proved. After hearing it I have no desire to attempt to keep a rotary running while trying to display the airframe to which it is attached.
Bill Bowker was, for me, the ultimate rotary operator at Old Warden in the past. However even Bill had his work cut out when the Pup cowling decided to rotate as well; shearing off all the ignition leads in the process. I recall the din as around five thousand hearts started beating again when Bill got the aircraft down on what is now the runway extension.
In the USA at such events as the RAeS lecture and the HAA symposium there is often a facility for making an audio and video recording of the procedings for subsequent commercial sale and in any case to have a record for future generations. With the aims of the HAA including this vital aspect of our aviation heritage I wonder if this might be possible at future events especially as the RAF Museum and RAeS lecture theatres must be well equipped to take care of the technicalities. It would be useful to get some opinion on this aspect from forums subscribers.
Cheers,
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Your presentation at the HAA symposium was excellent as the applause proved. After hearing it I have no desire to attempt to keep a rotary running while trying to display the airframe to which it is attached.
Bill Bowker was, for me, the ultimate rotary operator at Old Warden in the past. However even Bill had his work cut out when the Pup cowling decided to rotate as well; shearing off all the ignition leads in the process. I recall the din as around five thousand hearts started beating again when Bill got the aircraft down on what is now the runway extension.
In the USA at such events as the RAeS lecture and the HAA symposium there is often a facility for making an audio and video recording of the procedings for subsequent commercial sale and in any case to have a record for future generations. With the aims of the HAA including this vital aspect of our aviation heritage I wonder if this might be possible at future events especially as the RAF Museum and RAeS lecture theatres must be well equipped to take care of the technicalities. It would be useful to get some opinion on this aspect from forums subscribers.
Cheers,
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HI T69, thanks for the kind words. Bill and John Lewis were prime movers in my initial rotary training and I have a lot of respect for both of them, but you have to remember that the skill is not difficult. It is merely different from that we are used to. After all, the youth of our country successfully took rotary engines into battle during WW1, on minimal training to boot!
Regarding recording, I fully support it. The reason in giving the talk to the HAA was to educate and advertise a centre of information on the subject at the Shuttleworth Collection. I'm happy to talk to any individual who plans to fly a rotary on their characteristics as I know them. Most of us who fly them have had them fail at sometime or other, mostly due to inappropriate handling. If a good brief can prevent an accident, or stop someone reinventing the wheel, then it'd be time well spent.
All the Best, and thanks again,
Andy
Regarding recording, I fully support it. The reason in giving the talk to the HAA was to educate and advertise a centre of information on the subject at the Shuttleworth Collection. I'm happy to talk to any individual who plans to fly a rotary on their characteristics as I know them. Most of us who fly them have had them fail at sometime or other, mostly due to inappropriate handling. If a good brief can prevent an accident, or stop someone reinventing the wheel, then it'd be time well spent.
All the Best, and thanks again,
Andy
Powerpoint
Andy,
Quick off-topic aside, I was putting some lecture notes together the other day from a couple of my own lectures (nothing as interesting as yours) and discovered that if you select (in Powerpoint), "File", "Send to" - you get an option "Send to Microsoft word". This then throws up a selection of options all of which will give me something fairly readable and a lot smaller than the PP file.
Just thought I'd mention it,
G
(This is in office 2000 by the way, I can't speak for any other version.)
Quick off-topic aside, I was putting some lecture notes together the other day from a couple of my own lectures (nothing as interesting as yours) and discovered that if you select (in Powerpoint), "File", "Send to" - you get an option "Send to Microsoft word". This then throws up a selection of options all of which will give me something fairly readable and a lot smaller than the PP file.
Just thought I'd mention it,
G
(This is in office 2000 by the way, I can't speak for any other version.)
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Not a great deal of help, but the sadly out of print 'From Bleriot to Spitfire' and a couple of other Old Warden publications give good info on how to fly a rotary powered a/c.
I would like to add that Andy added a lot (for chairborne me) to the info I'd read in the books, and while it seemed challanging, Andy was at pains to point out that it was 'different, not difficult'. He should know!
I would like to add that Andy added a lot (for chairborne me) to the info I'd read in the books, and while it seemed challanging, Andy was at pains to point out that it was 'different, not difficult'. He should know!
