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Cheyenne and original Blackhawk both way before the Apache!!!
Dont think either were in any kind of competion with other types.Cheyenne was a truly awesome machine that was yet another victim of political manouvering v military requirements
Blackhwak programme died (quite literally) after the protoype crashed at Farnborough in '74.
Dont think either were in any kind of competion with other types.Cheyenne was a truly awesome machine that was yet another victim of political manouvering v military requirements
Blackhwak programme died (quite literally) after the protoype crashed at Farnborough in '74.
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Sorry ,guys, had to do the "looking into windows" course today.... otherwise!
Yes, it is the AH-56A Cheyenne; this was taken in Ottawa when it was doing its initial icing trials, flown by Don Segner, CTP, Lockheed.. in early 1969. Tried to get a ride but he wouldn`t swap for a trip in a WX.!It was a rigid rotor design with a combined pusher and t/r. The gunner sat on a rotatable seat and slew the guns; it also had early Flir.,and other early sensors.The last prototype had a downward firing ejection seat for the gunner. It could do 250 kts in a shallow dive, and pull about 3G; and to slow down the pusher was reversed, keeping the fuselage level- very advantageous in tactical mode. It was way ahead of it`s time as a gunship; it did have handling problems initially but they got sorted, only for the US Army to change the goalposts; on another pitch!Pity really as it would be in Service still, with all modern technology, a pretty formidable fighting machine.
Yes, it is the AH-56A Cheyenne; this was taken in Ottawa when it was doing its initial icing trials, flown by Don Segner, CTP, Lockheed.. in early 1969. Tried to get a ride but he wouldn`t swap for a trip in a WX.!It was a rigid rotor design with a combined pusher and t/r. The gunner sat on a rotatable seat and slew the guns; it also had early Flir.,and other early sensors.The last prototype had a downward firing ejection seat for the gunner. It could do 250 kts in a shallow dive, and pull about 3G; and to slow down the pusher was reversed, keeping the fuselage level- very advantageous in tactical mode. It was way ahead of it`s time as a gunship; it did have handling problems initially but they got sorted, only for the US Army to change the goalposts; on another pitch!Pity really as it would be in Service still, with all modern technology, a pretty formidable fighting machine.