nelson hub announced

maybe looking for some sf340 rated pilots already living locally not wanting to move?

You don't get it. People en masse, hate big airports & bigger airports are getting worse, far worse.


No security requirement for Saab's at smaller airports either.

You've never visited a New Zealand airport have you.....

No security screening for turboprops at ANY New Zealand airport.

this says it all, BUA's are hated by the public
 

while BUA operators make record profits.


ACCC says passenger experience little improved despite increasing airport profits | Australian Aviation

"this says it all, BUA's are hated by the public"

It does nothing of the sort. The article merely states that the average quality of service rating has remained satisfactory, despite increasing profits and some investment, hardly validating this particular example of your peculiar obsessions.

I hate to say it, but in its proposed form I can't see this airline surviving.

There is no market for this type of operation. Air NZ has and is always looking for new routes but the linking of regional centres is not commercially viable. Even with Air NZs cost base being considerably lower than that of KRA, given they already have the infrastructure at these airports, they can't make it stack up.

Initially they will probably do ok, they will get those people that are curious, the anti Air NZers and a handful of overseas visitors but long term people are going to want convenience, frequency and reliability. I just can't see KRA being able to offer that with two aircraft on a quite a long bus service type network. What happens when the aircraft breaks down in Queesntown? The next service through there won't be for a few hours, and it's not like they can offload pax onto Air NZ or Jetstar.

With regards Whenuapai as a second airport for Auckland. It's not going to happen in the short to medium term. No one is going to stump up the millions required to provide terminal space, additional taxiways, road access, etc. that would be required to make it work. There is no reason why it can't be a joint civil/military base its just not laid out well enough to allow for separate operations. There is a lot of available land by RWY 26 but that area lacks good road access and has no apron or taxi ways.

I'm sure there probably is room for another regional airline, but this type of service is not the answer. Do what Sounds Air and GBA are doing, work into the main centres and work with Air NZ/Jetstar to provide good connections.

people are going to want convenience, frequency and reliability
 

KRA will be operating routes that NZ have abandoned due to their very high costs.


NZ have never really been a very efficient airline. Govt gave them something like $880 million bail out, but they are fat & lazy as have no competition on many domestic routes & also many international routes, esp. when you take into a/c the VA/NZ alliance.


BTW you don't need a lot of infrastructure at small airports with no security required.

Ahem........ The government didn't give them any money, .......... they bought shares in the company and have since sold off a significant proportion of the shares for a handsome profit.

However don't let the facts get in the way of a good story

ok do tell.


How much of NZ is still govt owned ?

its time you did some homework for yourself. and not just on the ownership of airnz

think govt still owns a big chunk of NZ. Without govt NZ wouldn't even exist now.

no doubt. but whats your point?

wanna talk protectionism against airnz ops in oz?

They own around 40-50% percent of the shares, New Zealand law sates that the government can't control Air New Zealand and they are an silent share holder.

Looks like KRA is going to have bit of an hard time!

NZ will add an extra 650,000 seats to the domestic market over the next year - Air New Zealand to add more than 650,000 domestic seats | Stuff.co.nz

While most of the capacity is main truck, it will make people drive to get an cheaper fare.

I don't see how this will affect KRA at all since they are not competing on the same routes as Air NZ?

To some level it will, as it will cheaper to drive to the nearest main centre to take advantage of cheaper main trunk fares.

In some cases this could be true, but I'd say it'd still be cheaper flying say - NZTG to NZPM than driving to AKL and paying for parking, plus the extra time that it would add to a trip. I guess for some it comes down to the cheapest price and for others with limited time it's all about convenience. Time will tell...

it's never been about Tiger type passengers. You're never going to have Tiger type fares with 34 seaters.

An advertisement for pilots has just gone up:

Kiwi Regional Airlines - Career Opportunities

Asking for a few hours there!

Indeed. Going to have to offer some decent $$ to attract people with those sort of requirements.
After kiwis in Aussie who meet those requirements I think. Have to be pretty certain of your decision though if you were leaving a secure job to fly for this startup.......


Also I see from the ad, they've obviously gone and bought some 'A' models (cheaper of course). Anyone think Mr Wilson has yet figured out from the previous time the 'A' model was around in New Zealand that it doesn't have the performance to completely fill it on many New Zealand routes (suffering both payload vs. fuel trade off issues and performance limitations)?