The QF IR Team is waiting for the Alliance takeover to be approved. They will then approach NAA Unions and Reps to begin negotiations regarding a new EA. They’ll then apply the standard playbook of “sign this rubbish deal or we will replace you”.

What we all need to do is encourage and support NAA Pilots to get negotiating BEFORE QF force their hand. Go in hard and fast.

Even if your not an NAA Pilot or you couldn’t care less about what happens in Perth a quick simple email to your union asking them to begin negotiations for a new NAA EBA could make a massive difference to your pay in the future.

The unions will not ignore 300+ emails from pilots all around Australia asking them to get negotiating.

Doing nothing is obviously not working for NAA. Do you think it’s such a good idea to wait for QF to approach NAA Pilots with a large pineapple?

There is no doubt at all that AIPA is only supporting QANTAS mainline pilots and all others who think they are being represented are being stooged.
AIPA wil sell out all other group pilots to keep mainline ticking along, eg 3% Payrises, equivalent of 5% in other groups who have mostly got 2% or nothing .
Its time for the group Pilots to get together and form their own representation as at the moment there really isn’t any .

Let us know how you go.

From this weeks AIPA newsletter (sent to all members, including Mainline):

LMFAO! Rentention!! One operator in china looking for DECs on average coin and I know 8 Network guys sniffing around. Just wait until it gets back to pre COVID demand. Only thing they will retain is an overworked training department, albeit a dis functional one from all reports.

Bring it on!

Good to see some gentle PPRUNE pressure has encouraged the Pilot unions and QF to finally start discussions.

The NAA Pilots will need to provide QF with a list of non-negotiable ‘Strategic Imperatives’ and if these ‘Strategic Imperatives’ are not met then advise QF that the flying that the NAA Pilots currently conduct will need to be operated by another entity.

OH MY WORD!
You are só far ahead of your ski's...if you remotely knew as much as you set out to insinuate, you would've known that negotiations had commenced before you started barking on PPRuNe :rolleyes:

Unfortunately for QF, most other entities and/or BU’s available to QF are also bleeding pilots faster than they can replace them. What is quite weird about this bleeding of pilots to other entities is that one of those entities absorbing these pilots is QF itself. Perhaps QF needs to consider just running one airline instead of fvcking over hundreds of perfectly good pilots through outsourcing companies who treat them like latter day slaves.

Terrible it looks like. Take a look at that agreement vs the award. Looks like network aviation pays award wages, or less than if they are not keeping up, but can more than award hours. Lost count of the network pilots that have applied to over here.

Geez, that's an odd statement to make for someone up in HK, the guys I know who are still there wouldn't call their treatment good!

only live here Ex, work elsewhere.

If people are leaving, where are they going?

really excited for the young fellas who’ve decided to spread their wings. Be so cool to see them with WB Commands when the Captains they are flying with ATM are still F/Os at Kuntas

As if your visceral hatred of Qantas wasn’t already obvious enough you have to again demonstrate your personal affront that you can’t get a DEC gig.

Hey Bud, I have been offered a few DEC gigs but wouldn’t work for the coin or the conditions. Blows my mind how guys like you justify sitting In the RHS for half your career. Is it fear or stupidity??

Who cares what ActiveLooker thinks? He’s obviously a liar