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missy 28th Jan 2022 09:53


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11171460)
Mmmmmm and when AJ and JH see the report on their desk that the new up start start up is getting good loads they will simply go head to head with them. Nothing the ACCC can do about that.

ACCC should be able to stop another operator scheduling within X hours of the first on the same route for 18 months.

Icarus2001 28th Jan 2022 12:15

Key word in that sentence is SHOULD.

Have you not noticed that QF and VA schedules often follow from the two airline policy days? Arriving minutes apart.

The ACCC wil do nothing at all.

missy 29th Jan 2022 11:56


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11176530)
Have you not noticed that QF and VA schedules often follow from the two airline policy days? Arriving minutes apart.

Actually four for a while, Domestically - Qantas, Virgin, Jetstar and Tiger; Internationally Qantas, Air New Zealand, Jetstar and Virgin.

coaldemon 30th Jan 2022 07:57

The market tells them where to put their flights or so Network keeps saying in every Airline I have been in.

Pavement 1st Feb 2022 21:39

Kerry Packer once said that "you only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime". I think there could be a few out there:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b51728d13e.png

No Idea Either 1st Feb 2022 21:43

Oh come on Pavement…….if you’re gonna do it, do it properly…….

Pavement 1st Feb 2022 21:46


Originally Posted by No Idea Either (Post 11178519)
Oh come on Pavement…….if you’re gonna do it, do it properly…….

Unfortunately that is all that is in the public domain. I would love to see the agreement.

No Idea Either 1st Feb 2022 22:20

Oh, fair enough. No insights????

PoppaJo 1st Feb 2022 23:52

PPP-Adelaide is about the biggest market not served. Unless they are thinking about one weekly PPP to Ballarat or something.

TBM-Legend 2nd Feb 2022 01:05


Originally Posted by Pavement (Post 11178516)
Kerry Packer once said that "you only get one Alan Bond in your lifetime". I think there could be a few out there:

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b51728d13e.png

Cyclone alley....

One airport does not make a network...

Pavement 2nd Feb 2022 01:47


Originally Posted by TBM-Legend (Post 11178568)
Cyclone alley....

One airport does not make a network...

True but you get a couple of airports to stump up $1M in route development and the financials look great when they start. Then an IPO to let the public in on the 'amazing business'. The airport agreements come to an end and the routes have to stand up without support. Not viable so the whole lot goes down.
I honestly hope they make money but they will have airport (read ratepayer) money underpinning some pretty dumb airport pairs. That is not long term sustainable.

Colonel_Klink 2nd Feb 2022 07:37


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11178556)
PPP-Adelaide is about the biggest market not served. Unless they are thinking about one weekly PPP to Ballarat or something.

Serious question…

What makes Bonza think that it can make a route like this work given JQ already operate MEL / SYD / BNE to PPP. If a route like ADL PPP was even remotely feasible, wouldn’t JQ have tried it already?

PoppaJo 2nd Feb 2022 08:04


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 11178647)
Serious question…

What makes Bonza think that it can make a route like this work given JQ already operate MEL / SYD / BNE to PPP. If a route like ADL PPP was even remotely feasible, wouldn’t JQ have tried it already?

I think it’s more they are looking at doing such routes once or twice a week. They think it’s feasible at once or twice a week. I don’t believe that’s the case but that’s all out of the Bonza playbook.

They want to offer 50% the amount of routes Jetstar fly but with 90% less aircraft. They will do that by flying once or twice a week. That’s a pretty small market or non existent market they are chasing.

Colonel_Klink 2nd Feb 2022 08:53


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 11178659)
I think it’s more they are looking at doing such routes once or twice a week. They think it’s feasible at once or twice a week. I don’t believe that’s the case but that’s all out of the Bonza playbook.

They want to offer 50% the amount of routes Jetstar fly but with 90% less aircraft. They will do that by flying once or twice a week. That’s a pretty small market or non existent market they are chasing.

Fair point. Thanks!

V1 rotated 14th Feb 2022 06:26

Newcastle Airport Facebook page is touting that Bonza will be flying there from the Whitsundays and the Sunshine Coast mid 2022. Haven’t seen any announcement from Bonza yet, must be imminent

Low Pass 14th Feb 2022 07:42


Originally Posted by V1 rotated (Post 11184009)
Newcastle Airport Facebook page is touting that Bonza will be flying there from the Whitsundays and the Sunshine Coast mid 2022. Haven’t seen any announcement from Bonza yet, must be imminent

It seems they have very quickly removed that post from their FB page....premature evacuation

Going Nowhere 14th Feb 2022 07:49

That should give JQ enough time to get another 320 out of storage 😂

PoppaJo 14th Feb 2022 08:53

Looks like they have a deal with 9 with many announcements booked for tomorrow across its platforms, starting with Today in the morning.

Buster Hyman 14th Feb 2022 09:25

Bonza on the Bogan show, excellent!

DBMeridien 14th Feb 2022 17:50

SMH article has Bonza based at MCY - “90 km south of Brisbane”. Good luck finding it!


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