Ask Victoria if they’re laughing - over reach is becoming the daily reality.

Updated as per NSW Health’s website 8 hours ago. It really is a circus running this state these days, health officials and premier on two totally different pages.


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Thankfully it’s the Premier that is now driving the outcomes with NSW Health cutting their cloth to match. For so long over the last 20 months it has been the other way around.

The end for Qantas crew required to quarantine at Howard Springs correctional centre for national resilience is thankfully over. We can now isolate in a local hotel in Darwin between flights whilst keeping the disease to ourselves.
No longer being berated and warned if you’re off your dedicated balcony.
No longer having to wear a mask if outside.
No longer being woken for a temperature check at 0730 every morning.
No longer PCR tested on day 1, 7 and 12th days.
No longer being incarcerated for doing your job.
We’ve wasted weeks of our lives in the gulag. There was nothing pleasant about the experience except I didn’t have to do the washing up. The joint should be shutdown ASAP. It’s a national embarrassment. It’s a mining camp, nothing more, but I do feel for the staff that work there. Not a great place to work either. Hot and depressing. Nothing good going for the dump at all.

Yep, won’t miss it!

“One small step for crew… one giant leap for crew engagement”. Bring on the beers by the pool! :D

Has the NTG dropped the quarantine requirements for international arrivals?

Thought it was proposed, however not until January.

Still hotel quarantine, in a crew dedicated facility. Not free to move about the community just yet.

Thought piss ups by the pool was a little pre-mature.

Good outcome and a move in the right direction. At least crews can get a decent feed and get a few beers, albeit having everything delivered I guess. We do a similar thing in Cairns coming from PNG every week, it’s still a pain however better than going to a mining camp with no beers and fed tucker box food for 14 days.

I wish I didn’t have to get a tree stuck up my nose every few days though….

Not arguing the toss there, but Howard Springs was a shed load better than most 2 week hotel Qs I did.

It appears that NSW Health are mandating (again) 14 days quarantine for flight crew returning from overseas - but the punters down the back only have to do 72 hours?? Craziness...
Anyone able to confirm or deny that they really mean that - or do they mean "foreign based flight crew"???

https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...uidelines.aspx

Are you looking for consistency, logic and rational medical advice?

You know, like mandating wearing a mask when the sole occupant of a car.

Hoping for it!

The 14 days applies to NSW crew. Tasman freight flying exemption revoked as well.

The pax was originally ‘72 hours pending further health advice’. I’m not sure whether it’s still just 72 hours for them or whether they’ve been extended.

Victorian crew I think are 72 hours. QLD and WA crew are still 14 days.

Result from National Cabinet Meeting appears to be holding firm that "travellers" arriving in NSW, VIC and ACT (the only states/territories accepting international arrivals "without quarantine") need to quarantine for 72 hours.
NSW Health holding firm that Flight Crew need to do 14 days - it's bullsh!t.

Amended to 72 hours for flight crew.

Twitter

Still too much.

It is - what, pray tell, does 72 hours achieve? What's meant to happen at the 71 hour mark? Why don't they just say - "Isolate until you receive a negative test result"? At least that would make a modicum of sense?
Who comes up with this made up rubbish?

By the way, sincere thanks for your efforts, Keg! I know many colleagues who greatly appreciate your work to get this overturned.

Thanks but I didn’t do much except rant a couple of times on twitter and write to the local member.

There is a rumour going around that Joyce told the Premier that we wouldn’t be able to crew international flights for a few weeks from 9 December if the 14 days iso remained. Given that Qantas was quite positive earlier yesterday that things would change for the better it wouldn’t surprise me if the NSW Premier had given QF some sort of assurance that the iso would be reduced.

AIPA was making representations also.

It’s possible the first press release at 1730 last night was just an over looked typo. IE crew iso was supposed to be changed but it was missed. Doesn’t excuse it going into ‘print’ and I agree that even 72 hours is excessive given our precautions that we are still taking.

It’ll be interesting to watch the crewing situation for patterns that have return flights scheduled for return after about 0800 on 22 December through to Boxing Day.

Surely an opt out provision would have to be made from Dec 6 onwards if ISO doesn’t drop completely?

Dec 6 Koizi? Start of stand up?

Home quarantine would be better than being in a hotel that’s set on fire! On day 10 this happened
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-...tion/100656756


What more could go wrong?

Well, its now two and a bit full business days since Dom P’s (updated) media release stating the 14 day Flight Crew iso period would be reduced to 72 hours.

The current Public Health Orders commenced just over an hour prior to his media release. It contained all the other changes highlighted in the media release but, as best as I can tell, there is no relief for Flight Crew isolation periods within.

I will happily stand corrected if I am misreading the Order or if there is other information in the public realm I am not aware of.

Given how quickly Public Health Order changes have been made in the past, perhaps its time to get back on Twitter and/or keep writing to the local member to keep Dom P to his word.

Correct - still 14 days for crew and 72 hours for pax - disgraceful the power these “Health Departments” wield. Absolutely zero justification (I'd love to know if they actually THINK there is a valid reason for the discrepancy between pax and crew!) provided for what is an obviously ridiculous rule. Anyone who can, please exert pressure on the powers that be…

Takes a while to update these things… particularly when they’ve changed.

Everything I’ve read publicly says ‘72 hours’ for aircrew so that’s what I’m going with at the moment. If they want to take me to court to fight it I’ve plenty of screen shots of government websites that indicate the current requirements.

Yup...with little effort you can find numerous examples on total contradictions of requirements for isolation/quarantine/anything else between federal government sites like smart traveller and each states COVID websites and (at least as of yesterday) very little guidance on what these 72 hour isolations require of us, be it crew or pax.

Sure makes following the rules difficult when what we are given makes it next to impossible to follow.

The difficulty is, is I've been told you are presented with the Health Order - puts you in a bad position if you then break that...

When the will is there, the NSW Government has been quite quick in amending Public Health Orders after a decision is taken. I suggest that the will is not there for this particular change, hence the contention that further lobbying from interested parties may be needed.

Why are you people so compliant? It's not enforced unless your under police quarantine.

You’re a bit in the spotlight if you have to fly out to your home state after your “non-compliant” 72 hours, should you choose to opt for that timeframe. The company wouldn’t risk it either…

Because for most of us, failure to adhere to Government restrictions would be grounds for disciplinary action from our employers...