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t_cas 14th Jul 2021 10:29

Technically a challenge.
Not impossible.

Torukmacto 14th Jul 2021 11:05

Pretty much any country you’d like to name it’s impossible to go for a walk and not see a perfectly serviceable A330 sitting in the dirt . Why repair a broken one ?

wondrousbitofrough 14th Jul 2021 13:50


Originally Posted by Going Nowhere (Post 11078325)
Getting the manufacturer and CASA to sign off on a ferry permit.

The fact they know exactly what's wrong and the potential for further damage...

Double_Clutch 23rd Jul 2021 09:43

What’s going on over at VA? Many stand downs with the reduced schedule?

turbantime 23rd Jul 2021 12:36


Originally Posted by Double_Clutch (Post 11083659)
What’s going on over at VA? Many stand downs with the reduced schedule?

Surprisingly no, even for Sydney base. MoU extension being discussed with no lower than 75% pay for the next few months.

Agent_86 30th Jul 2021 01:03


Originally Posted by transition_alt (Post 11078370)
I saw it in Perth just the other day as it was my first time there since COVID.

It sparked my curiosity. However the captain was adamant it was going back to the lessor very soon as it’s been getting some work done over at T1/T2 on the odd day here and there

Was going for another 'walk' this morning...

Colonel_Klink 27th Aug 2021 03:01

Virgin have just announced the acquisition of an additional 9 B737 taking the total fleet to 77 by end of Feb.

Very positive news….for when state borders eventually open. Whenever that happens to be. Looks like Virgin is banking pretty heavily that things will be pretty open come Summer time

PoppaJo 27th Aug 2021 03:41

Add in the MAX order and they will be a 100+ 737 operation in a few years.

Rex are going to have problems getting scale to go up against this. Don’t forget Rex doesn’t have any Sydney slots sort of firmed up in the medium term, they are using gaps in the schedule at the moment. They want the Tiger slots but it appears Jayne does also.

poach 27th Aug 2021 04:57

How many additional crew would this represent on conservative numbers?


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 11101890)
Virgin have just announced the acquisition of an additional 9 B737 taking the total fleet to 77 by end of Feb.

Very positive news….for when state borders eventually open. Whenever that happens to be. Looks like Virgin is banking pretty heavily that things will be pretty open come Summer time


MelbourneFlyer 27th Aug 2021 05:08

I think Rex's Boeing 737s will be long gone by the time Virgin's first 737 MAX arrives.

Colonel_Klink 27th Aug 2021 06:39


Originally Posted by poach (Post 11101905)
How many additional crew would this represent on conservative numbers?

Don’t typical domestic carriers run at approximately 5 crew per aircraft, give or take?

mates rates 27th Aug 2021 09:17

“Real “airlines use to operate at 6 crews per aircraft plus checkers.So I guess in these lean and mean times 5 crews would be pretty close to the numbers.With 9 more aircraft coming and 88 “inactive” pilots being recalled the numbers look correct.

anonfly 28th Aug 2021 03:31


Originally Posted by mates rates (Post 11101987)
“Real “airlines use to operate at 6 crews per aircraft plus checkers.So I guess in these lean and mean times 5 crews would be pretty close to the numbers.With 9 more aircraft coming and 88 “inactive” pilots being recalled the numbers look correct.

Id say you right there. No additional crew required after the 88 as of yet. Takes the total number close to 880. Management have been hell bent on the training of the returning crew, to the detriment of current crew as they are “taking” sectors for line flying. Which means greater number of stand down days for crew. More bodies with f all flying on at the moment. Management have a grand plan and it’s certainly being kept a closely guarded secret. Looking forward to next year to see how it all plays out.

Scooter Rassmussin 28th Aug 2021 04:04

It’s a ploy by Qantas, they know there is nothing going on next year ,but they are playing a game , VA will spend all their cash on retraining and extra aircraft to compete with Qantas ,which will not get used they will fall close to the brink and so may Qantas who would get a government Bail out !

vhtae 28th Aug 2021 07:55

Probably rule out VH-VOS apparently suffering from corrosion being parked for so long. This aircraft was not owned by VA.

Some talk that VH-VUI and VH-VUJ in which are in the US are preparing a return to Australia soon.

VH-VOL and VH-VOO currently at Seletar Singapore.

VH-VOQ is stored at Alice Springs.

PoppaJo 28th Aug 2021 09:23

737s look like they will come from SilkAir. Mid last decade age wise.

Pretty close comparable config.

On Guard 28th Aug 2021 12:25

Correct me if I’m wrong but the 88 were for previous aircraft. These 9 will require more.



QUOTE=PoppaJo;11102478]737s look like

they will come from SilkAir. Mid last decade age wise.

Pretty close comparable config.[/QUOTE]

Chocks Away 29th Aug 2021 16:14


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 11101924)
Don’t typical domestic carriers run at approximately 5 crew per aircraft, give or take?

Regional & Short-haul ~ 6 pair min.
Medium Haul ~ 9-12
Long Haul / ULH ~ 13-16
Much of this depends heavily on whether the company runs an efficiency / optimisation / bidding program... such as Kronos which works well... unless its Alerts are constantly overridden :ugh:

PoppaJo 29th Aug 2021 16:16

Silkair machines. Due from this week. MSNs 44222, 44223, 44224, 44225, 44226, 44232 and 44233


Logan31 2nd Sep 2021 04:25

Any plans for Virgin L/H to start up anytime in the future?


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