I'm curious as to why you don’t abandon travel agency work and go into either real estate or used cars where B.S. is really prized?

As a background, I once worked for a charter operator flying 737s. We started out with two aircraft and 35 million 1988 dollars and flew absolutely full aircraft until the money was all gone. Took 15 months. Absent government cronyism, grants and protectionism (none of which are in play currently) there is no way to make a profit on charters or tours. Review again my list of failed Canadian operators. Canada has 37 million frozen people who all want to fly south for some sun every year. If you cannot make charter work there you have Buckley's of making it work here.

Also...wages are about 30% of costs. If you pay people half of what they are worth you can only offer fares 15% lower than a legacy carrier. There is no negotiation on any of the other costs.

WTF does EK allegedly underwriting travel insurance have to do with your proposed deal? And on that subject: Amongst the coverage exclusions “your travel against your home country’s government advice or against local authority advice at your trip destination”. So that rules out Aussies. And the cap is $174K, which should cover about five days of ICU in a US hospital. Sucks if you end up 800K out of pocket.

How many pilots you recon are jobless, how long will it take to get rehired

I’m starting to think BNEA320 needs serious help or he ( or she) is some kid who just posts shxt here to wind us all up. Either way.. I wish he or she would go away..

Well you're the people who get wound up!

if you disagree, politely correct the errors, don't hyperventilate with childish vitriol.

morno "OMFG you’re an idiot https://www.pprune.org/images/smilies2/eusa_wall.gif"
cynphil "moderators please ban this account"
bugsmasher "muppet"

BNE320 may at worst be unrealistic but also raises some interesting points.
Like the grumpy Karens who populate tank back radio - if you don't like it, you can always change the channel.

change the channel and you'll just tune into one of his aliases


hint: he has a ton

Gees BNEA320, not another 'what if' thread.

Canada 3000's original focus was on shipping Canuck's to Caribean Islands and Mexico in their winter and ex-pat Brits to/from the UK in the British summer. They were NEVER a low cost carrier. Most SLF have come to realise that an advanced booked economy flight, with seat, baggage, IFE and refreshments, is generally not much more expensive than a low cost carrier once you have added on baggage, etc.

yes can't believe all the negativity from people who are hanging onto employment. Face it, some pilots will have to retire, some will get less work/less pay. The world has changed from a shortage of pilots to a massive glut of pilots.

Anti skid on ... LCCs are much cheaper on average.

Book LCC last minute you'll probably pay similar to earlybird legacy type fares.

Why would LCCs be near in cost ? Cos they are almost sold out.

Canada 3000 were launch airline for A332 & choose a 340Y seat configuration(2-4-2), whereas Air Transat went 2 class, 3-3-3 in Y.

Canada 3000s B752s were 2 class.

So they were trying to reduce the per seat cost, while at same time offering some amenities you got on legacy carriers, like meals, baggage, but think booze wasn't "FREE".

They might not be your idea of todays LCCs, but they have far less staff per aircraft (one massive overhead gone), so were able to offer fares from SYD & BNE to YVR return of AUD$750 in peak season, with no extras & often with a free side trip to LAX, when most legacy carriers wanted 3 times that minimum. Loss leaders ? Probably, but as far as reported, they were NOT going broke & had taken over 2 other Canadian carriers, but rather doing quite well, until 10 Sep 2001 & then next day ........... the world changed.

Yeah don’t push my benevolence BNEA320! Those people ‘hanging on’ have families to support, and mortgages to pay.

& in real world ...

do you seriously believe every single QF, VA pilot will still have a job when things get back to normal in a month or 3 ?

Do you seriously believe that Bain are going to pay same as VA paid ? (assuming the bind holders don't get hold of VA owned fleet & sell them & stuff up Bain)

Jobkeeper will end & then what ?

Qld/NSW border not closed, eh?

What are all those signs saying ‘Border Closed’ with QPol and ADF checking for valid border passes, then? Of course they’re closed :rolleyes: :ugh: