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currawong 15th Jul 2020 11:03


Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10836485)
So, a young bloke just walking down the street is gunna drop dead from blood clots and stroke?

That is absolutely terrifying. I vote we lock down the whole of Australia, inside their houses with absolutely zero permission to leave that house under any circumstance for two years.

This will have the secondary effect of finally reaching our road toll goal of zero deaths. It will also mean zero heart attack, cancer and other health issue deaths. Amazing.

Lets do it everyone, 'We're All In This Together' (Don't just say it, sing it in your best Kum Ba Yah voice).

No. But he might have trouble passing his Class 1.

"growing evidence that COVID-19 infections can result in severe, long-lasting neurological complications—including inflammation, psychosis, delirium, nerve damage, and strokes—even among patients experiencing mild cases "

https://www.the-scientist.com/news-o...covid-19-67717


Bodie1 15th Jul 2020 12:49


"growing evidence that COVID-19 infections can result in severe, long-lasting neurological complications—including inflammation, psychosis, delirium, nerve damage, and strokes—even among patients experiencing mild cases "
There's established evidence that being born is a major risk, from falling out of bed, to crossing the street, to even inheriting genes that may kill you. Scientists advise, in startling and confrontational terms there is a 100% certainty that you will die as a consequence of being born. They also advise that as a possible mitigator to the mental trauma of this certainty that you can choose to live on your knees or die on your feet.

Australopithecus 15th Jul 2020 20:25

Scientists have also proven that idiotic cliche is a poor defence against covid-19.

Sunfish 15th Jul 2020 21:31

Anybody arguing against the current lockdown is so bad at maths that they shouldn’t hold a pilot license.

Bodie1 15th Jul 2020 23:00

Who's arguing against the current lockdown Sunfish? Victorians have gotten exactly what they deserve. Except of course the Mornington Peninsula, and regional Victoria, well they have to cop the consequences of you lot in Melbourne. Indescriminate stupidity.

Bodie1 15th Jul 2020 23:02


Scientists have also proven that idiotic cliche is a poor defence against covid-19.
Scientists have proven that baby boomers shouldn't be listened to when it concerns matters that affect the community, when self consideration is the discussion, boomers are the experts. Scientists call this phenomenon 'I'm alright Jack'

Buster Hyman 16th Jul 2020 02:13


Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10838235)
Indescriminate stupidity.

You have eloquently summarised your recent posts. Well done.

Xeptu 16th Jul 2020 02:47

Enjoy your retirement bodie, maybe see you on the road doing the grey nomad thing.

Icarus2001 16th Jul 2020 05:52


Anybody arguing against the current lockdown is so bad at maths that they shouldn’t hold a pilot license.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...kdown/12165934

So should Professor Foster hand back her qualifications as well?


Bodie1 16th Jul 2020 07:44


You have eloquently summarised your recent posts. Well done.
No probs knackers, boomer are we?

Bodie1 16th Jul 2020 07:45


Enjoy your retirement bodie, maybe see you on the road doing the grey nomad thing.
Not yet dude, got a few years left in me ;)

Bodie1 16th Jul 2020 07:58


So should Professor Foster hand back her qualifications as well?
I'd suggest that the lockdown zealots will not be able to watch that 2 minutes with an open mind or critical thinking. I'd suggest that the lockdowns won't finish until those sucking on the federal government and state government teats start losing their jobs, until the boomers start losing their franked dividends and the banks don't pay dividends for a couple of years. Then we'll start hearing the whinging.

We hear incessantly the 'what about if your dad, mum, brother, sister gets it?' Well, we'll be starting to hear about the people taking their own lives in the next 6 to 12 months, this pressure takes time. Anyone who knows a ambo or police officer will be hearing about the extras they're picking up.

Australopithecus 16th Jul 2020 08:25


Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10838456)
I'd suggest that the lockdown zealots will not be able to watch that 2 minutes with an open mind or critical thinking. I'd suggest that the lockdowns won't finish until those sucking on the federal government and state government teats start losing their jobs, until the boomers start losing their franked dividends and the banks don't pay dividends for a couple of years. Then we'll start hearing the whinging.

We hear incessantly the 'what about if your dad, mum, brother, sister gets it?' Well, we'll be starting to hear about the people taking their own lives in the next 6 to 12 months, this pressure takes time. Anyone who knows a ambo or police officer will be hearing about the extras they're picking up.

So a sole economics professor thinks that we have a binary choice: Save lives or save jobs. The only country experimenting with that approach (Sweden) has a death rate 5-12x higher than its Scandinavian neighbours, yet its economy has contracted pretty much identically to those countries.

If you ever attended University you would know that there are some crackpot professors around, and legions of really quite good ones. Just like I don’t heed anti-vaxxers and climate deniers, I eschew people of whatever qualifications advancing ideas that are self-evidently wrong.

Must be the boomer in me.

Xeptu 16th Jul 2020 08:27

I still don't get where you're coming from bodie, are you saying that if all the borders were open and restrictions dropped that everything will go back to normal like it was pre-covid

Sunfish 16th Jul 2020 09:47

There is a video on SBS news tonight showing what breakdown looks like in a modern South African hospital. The staff have fled. Bloody rubbish in untended wards. Rats drinking blood on the floor. Overflowing toilets.

That is not because of the lethality of the virus, on that we are agreed.

It is because of the logistics of medical response to sick people - the logistics failed.

That same thing will happen in Australia if we listen to idiots wanting to open up for business.

‘If that happens now, you are in a drag race between the ability to provide medical care and the number of cases. We will lose that race until we have a vaccine.

‘’Take America - 3 million cases, 130,000 dead. Probably five times that many hospitalized, say1.3 million.

Now America is 300 million people. Extrapolate conservatively. 60 million cases. 25000000 dead and 26 million needing medical care. No system can handle those numbers.

ruprecht 16th Jul 2020 09:58


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10838541)
The staff have fled. Bloody rubbish in untended wards. Rats drinking blood on the floor. Overflowing toilets.

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Xeptu 16th Jul 2020 10:00

Yeah I have family who are medical staff and their concern is PPE, they don't want to be taking any risks should equipment supply, rubbish removal and sterilisation be compromised. The girls are seriously concerned about that. We have planned to keep all the girls in one home and support food and washing supply while the rest of us live in another home so there's less risk between family members.
I asked her what if you are presented with a patient who is a known pro let it rip and went to all the rallies. She just walked away and didn't respond.

Angle of Attack 16th Jul 2020 10:01

I’ve been around a while, and Sunfish has been bagged constantly, I’ve never
personally attacked Sunfish even though he is the Bain of many posters here,
but I think he’s right on this one, in fact I don’t think pilots careers matter anymore
we are collateral damage and much more scary things are going to happen, such as
nuclear bombs, foreign troops invading, and basically mad max disasters. You may
think this virus is a sham but so did the western world when Nazi Germany started.
This is a virus brought by China to inflict maximum damage, they will follow up.

Xeptu 16th Jul 2020 10:14

I don't know about that Angle, but collateral damage would be right, You know most Retired Airline Pilots when they flew their last line flight, didn't know it was their last flight at the time.
I'm inclined to agree with Allan Joyce on the statement that domestic demand and capacity is likely to be 40% of what it was pre-covid, for the next couple of years. I think the time frame is optimistic depending on how deep and for how long the recession that follows.

Buster Hyman 16th Jul 2020 10:38


Originally Posted by Bodie1 (Post 10838439)
No probs knackers, boomer are we?

No. Why do you ask Karen?


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