Perhaps his little world will start falling apart when the rest of the nation gets moving while he is still sitting on the bench.

Just like that fool right up north who said he was not opening his territory for a few years.

All these Labor premiers are on power trips from one extreme to the other, certainly is not one Labor approach across the board. The bloke in Vic seems to run his own regime with no affiliation to any National Labor approach at all. He stands up and agrees with a Liberal premier to his north, while his colleagues in other states shoot her down.

Oh be calm.

The differences between states and territories opening up to each will only be a matter of weeks, early next year no one will remember who opened to who when because it’ll all have seemed to have happened at the same time.

Now the international border is the major point of discussion. Has there been any talk of the criteria that will apply to cause international borders to open? When will we be able to travel freely to a Covid safe NZ? What amount of vaccination uptake will be needed to open the rest of the international borders? What if not enough Australians get the vaccine to the minimum level required, will there be some type of forced vaccination, or will border remain closed? Will there be mandatory vaccination for foreigners (I’d say so)?

The question asked by an analyst recently to a local CEO was that is International Travel viable (green earnings) without the Business traveller? Talking taken completely out of the picture here. Pretty much all corporate accounts have banned travel. The answer was no.

Those International fights with 20% Corporate, the revenue that comes with that is far greater than 20%.

I guess they just want to reduce the cash burn at the moment, worry about profit in a few years.

I would have thought in the case of International Borders, all inbound passengers would at least be required to test negative assuming a reliable quick test is available by then and quite probably vaccinated as well. For outbound passengers almost certainly vaccinated, but I wouldn't think forced, just refused if you are not. It would be foolish to want to travel without having been vaccinated. It will be interesting to see what actually comes about. Surely most countries would require vaccinated prior to entry. It'll be a couple of years before we find out.

I think it will be quicker than you think.

Travel insurance companies already gearing up to add vaccination as a requirement for coverage.

First half of next year will be interesting.

Someone has already jumped on it. Best thing the ABC has ever used their budget for. :D

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What's happening in the first half of next year.

The rollout of the various vaccines.

The regulations and plans governments will enact to undertake vaccination programs.

Observation on how much initial uptake of the vaccine is being requested by the population.

Decisions being made on what level of vaccination will allow borders to open, along with testing and Covid status of other nations.

When these plans are formulated it’ll give international carriers a better idea of when a return to regular open international air travel is going to happen so should allow for them to start planning flights and start return to work processes for pilots. Although the return to work probably won’t be in the first half of the year everything else will happen in the first half, so international crews should have a much better idea of the road ahead.

I admire your optimism, but there are a few hurdles in the way. The first being we don't actually have an approved vaccine yet. Then it will take 6 months to produce and a further 12 months to roll out, assuming everyone is on board with that early in the roll out. The next issue, not so much for AUS and NZ is that you cannot be vaccinated whilst you are infected. That's going to be an issue for the US, South America, India, Europe and Africa. Finally, CHINA, AUS and NZ are likely to be returned to the International travel market in the first group. The rest of the world probably won't be ready for us until Europe and the US are returned. So there's a way to go yet.

A May 21 Vaccine launch won’t reach the whole population in this nation until the 21 year is out.

Skeptical in bubbles, half the states here wouldn’t even risk it I don’t think.

AJ will be out and about pushing bubbles with Asia because he has to. His cash burn will eliminate all domestic earnings until his International arm is back up.

Next year is all about maintaining a rolling and uninterrupted domestic network all days of the year.

Domestic travel was always the cash cow. It should be able to sustain a positive income indefinitely. Nations which are more serious about vaccines and health directions (Asian ones I believe) will put better protocols in place to allow early uptake of vaccination and Immunisation passports. This is what the Federal government should be aiming for anyway.

Now we’ve just signed the RCEP, the world’s biggest trade deal, with Asian nations. Australia to the RCEP nation trade is worth $485 billion AUD and includes Australia's 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 7th, 9th and 10th largest trading partners. Trade to this region makes up 83% of Australia's total trade (not even including India which may end up joining the agreement). The Federal government will probably want air links to these nations opened up promptly I’d imagine, after a suitable vaccine rollout program.

Latest info is the vaccine program should be started here in March, Asian nations at a similar time. I guess as there’ll be a gradual rise in vaccinated people here will gradually allow flights to increase? (Perhaps a confirmed international trip will allow priority in the vaccine queue).

Maybe! if we have one. Just us being vaccinated isn't enough for unrestricted International travel, the majority of the destination country must be vaccinated also. Just because you can't be infected doesn't mean you can't carry the virus and infect those who are not vaccinated. So it's going to take time and not every country will be ready at the same time.

When McGowan says "I congratulate Vic on reaching 28 days of no contact tracing," though deep down he can't believe
he has to open the border up because their are no more excuses left. Oh! hang on, maybe I can. I hear the vaccines are only
going to be 90% effective, therefore their is a 10% chance of infection. How convenient Sir Humphrey, in that case I shall close the border
until we can find a 100% effective vaccine to protect our WA constituents even beyond the election. Now, Sir Humphrey is that pork barrelling
and spin at it's very best. Yes minister.

Not interested in his congratulations.
He is happy to big note himself at our expense when it suits & now tries to look as if he cares.
Him & queen P can keep themselves locked up forever & continue to play politics in their childish ways.

Indeed, it appears I was banned for that post of mine you quoted.

And NO! I am not bnea320, it was an apparently failed attempt by me at dry humour by mentioning his original post... seemingly the mods failed to see the irony of a broken clock being correct two times a day.

Errrr haven’t been watching the news today have you??

Finally. Last idiot standing has opened up he did run out of excuses in the end.

....on Tuesday Dec 8th....with the proviso no new cases or else expect slamming shut of the border again one assumes.

Be an interesting week.

Sorry mate, wasn’t my intention, I know you are not BNEA320- I just noticed he is not banned anymore. Standby for more threads!
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Hmmmmm-

So Given, the Posts/and Assertions - that, have been redacted/& removed by the protagonist/'s on here......

Where/and How Do -: 'MelbourneFlyer', 'TT738' fit in, with 'Getaway' and 'BNEA320'.....????

Just a question....?????, is all.- Ta.

rgds all/
be Well
S28- BE