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TT738 4th May 2020 00:53

resumption of flights to North America(NA)
 
Deputy NZ PM, wants flights to NZ operating for NZ ski season.

https://www.traveller.com.au/ski-sea...skiiers-h1nrnw

NZ govt needs flights to resume ASAP or country will go down the toilet along with the all blecks (had to get this one in, sorry all you kiwis about losing the RWC)

So, NZ govt will be pushing to get flights to NA operating ASAP, so think soon after you can fly to NZ from OZ, you'll be able to connect with flights from NZ to NA.

So if you then can fly to NA via NZ, how could any govt stop nonstops ?

Read somewhere, on another forum I think, that if USA doesn't open fast enough, airlines might use TIJ, as Mexican govt will allow flights.

TIJ is literally right on the U.S. border at San Diego.

You can use a facility called CBX, cross border express to literally walk a few hundred metres from Mexico to USA.


So fly into TIJ walk to San Diego where you clear U.S. customs & immigration & yes you have to get to SAN if want to fly somewhere else in USA, but SAN is well serviced even right now.

Also read that some non U.S. airlines are looking to fly HNL/mainland USA as an extension of flight into HNL, but they obviously can't sell HNL/LAX for example, but they could sell HNL/TIJ, which would probably be attractive to San Diego residents.

hotnhigh 4th May 2020 02:35

Absolutely zero chance. History won’t be allowed to repeat. https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/austr...on/ar-BB11qXrQ

dragon man 4th May 2020 02:36

I would suggest that if you travel to the USA anyway you like that the Australian government doesn’t approve you will get stuck in two weeks quarantine. As for NZs ski fields I know of one that made the decision in February to not open this winter due to the harsh lockdown. They went to hard IMO and now are going to,panic as unemployment goes thru the roof.

rattman 4th May 2020 02:40

Chances of NA is close to zero as possible

Australia <=> NZ is expected to be announced this week. Jacinda Ardern is attending the australian cabinet meeting on tuesday

DirectAnywhere 4th May 2020 02:42

Jacinda Ardern to join Australia’s national cabinet meeting this week.

That would suggest there is a push for the establishment of conditions to permit the re-opening of trans-Tasman travel at some stage. No idea what the timing of that might be.

Beyond that? Forget it for the foreseeable future.

normanton 4th May 2020 03:27

With Trump running around like a headless chook it aint gonna happen.

dr dre 4th May 2020 03:40

There’ll be flights from Australia or NZ to China before the US.

Although a resumption in international travel may be speeded with recent advances in antibody testing that may be available en masse within several months. There’ll still need to be trials (just because you have antibodies doesn’t necessarily mean immunity) but after the tests are developed and refined a certificate of immunity could be issued allowing quarantine and isolation free international travel?

Goat Whisperer 4th May 2020 04:36

Nope. Not this year. Aus-NZ, then Pacific Islands decide if they want in. If they're in bubble with Aus/NZ then no flights to US/Asia. Easy decision for Cook Is, Vanuatu, trickier for Fiji, Samoa.

AAGpilot 4th May 2020 06:28

As someone who’s taken the train to the border from San Diego and walked across to Tijuana, it’s about a 20 mile hike

Hoosten 4th May 2020 07:08

FFS, get Trans Tasman flights going, the local Woolies is out of Watties Baked Beans. Can't deal with this for too much longer.

TT738 4th May 2020 07:09


Originally Posted by AAGpilot (Post 10771866)
As someone who’s taken the train to the border from San Diego and walked across to Tijuana, it’s about a 20 mile hike

here we
go from google maps

note scale bottom right is 100m

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....62b3097520.jpg

ampclamp 4th May 2020 07:18

I can't see flights from the country currently most effected by covid-19 to one of the least effected countries for quite some time yet.

TT738 4th May 2020 07:23

i'm guess July or August. You must remember all OZ govts are trying to encourage domestic tourism, cos we need the money to stay here.

Be interesting to look back at this post in 2-7 months.

wishiwasupthere 4th May 2020 07:25

I’ve heard Alliance will be flying direct to Tijuana from Bankstown using Fokker 50s, starting 1st June.

Boe787 4th May 2020 07:27

TT738

As mentioned previously,without medical travel insurance,no one in their right mind will fly to the USA, highest medical costs in the world, and highest Covid Death rate to date!

So unless the Insurance companies come up with a reasonably priced Insurance policy covering Covid, I dont see too many people going overseas anywere!


AAGpilot 4th May 2020 07:31


Originally Posted by TT738 (Post 10771898)
here we
go from google maps

note scale bottom right is 100m

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....62b3097520.jpg

what does this have to do with KSAN? You were saying fly into TIJ then connect out of SAN. That’s about 20 miles. Yes Tijuana is walking distance from the border. As I said, I’ve done it

exfocx 4th May 2020 10:02


Originally Posted by TT738 (Post 10771916)
i'm guess July or August. You must remember all OZ govts are trying to encourage domestic tourism, cos we need the money to stay here.

Be interesting to look back at this post in 2-7 months.

Pretty certain Morrison and Birmingham have both said international borders (other than NZ) will be closed until next yr earliest.

Anyone traveling outside of where the Gov approves will likely find themselves with an enforced hotel stay on their return and maybe at their own expense.

TT738 4th May 2020 10:23


Originally Posted by exfocx (Post 10772093)
Pretty certain Morrison and Birmingham have both said international borders (other than NZ) will be closed until next yr earliest.

Anyone traveling outside of where the Gov approves will likely find themselves with an enforced hotel stay on their return and maybe at their own expense.

Sounds like you listen to what is said in the media too much ...

& in pollie speak that could meany anything.

Surprise surprise, it may be a lot sooner, once many have booked domestic holidays.

I'll say 1AUG for 1st long haul international, past NZ & 1SEP for more normal long haul, whatever the new normal is.

Capt Fathom 4th May 2020 10:54


Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere (Post 10771918)

I’ve heard Alliance will be flying direct to Tijuana from Bankstown using Fokker 50s, starting 1st June.

I’m sure TT738 will pass that on to BNEA320! :E

tdracer 4th May 2020 19:12


Originally Posted by Boe787 (Post 10771919)
and highest Covid Death rate to date!

No, not even close. Highest Covid death totals to date (although I don't believe the numbers coming out of China for one instant) - but the death rate is no where near the top.


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