Corona is basically another Sars type flu.

You might have to take a pill (if vaccine not sorted, but vaccine now only looks few months away) like if going to a malaria ridden country.

The yanks will sort it out, they, like all other countries, will have to.

Welfare can only go so far. After start of Sep, most welfare for Corona will end in OZ.

Pent up demand is huge, lots of pressure on govts to reopen everything, including borders fast.

Think of all those with credit vouchers which have to be used.

If you don't think it will happen fast, you better get to your local gun shop to get legal guns/ammo or your local bikie gang to get it faster.

Crime is already on increase.

Currently there are 3 passenger flights a week to North America from NZAA
NZ 2 AKL LAX TUES THURS SAT
NZ 1 LAX AKL
Currently 789 and from next week 773 operating

Do you know if they’ve been cancelling those flights or are they actually going?


Answered my own question,

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/...452Z/NZAA/KLAX

Now is that pax or cargo?

lolololololol. How about some logic on this? Where is the virus doing the most damage, where are the deaths the highest and where is the DEAR LEADER doing jack sh!te about it? Oh, the US you say. Correct. I seriously doubt there will be flights to the US anytime soon, it would be political suicide for the Fed Gov to open our borders to anyone coming from there as you only need to listen to everyday people and anything Trump is on the nose. The place is out of control.

I would agree though, that Morrison is looking for any excuse to get back to "normal" as he was dragged by the states to tightening up as early as we did.

As an aside I do not trust the CMO or the DCMO, imo they're both caught up in the politics, instead of just giving the medical advice it appears to me they're now part of the political process and are one and the same as Morrision.

UA just confirmed closure of their LAX long haul base. Sparking rumours that their remaining long haul flights including SYD-LAX won't be returning post Corona.

UA had already reduced SYD-LAX to a seasonal service prior to COVID-19 restrictions.

https://liveandletsfly.com/united-lax-hub-future/

This tiered reopening in Australia is stupid - the criteria should be simple. X% of the population tested including random sampling and no new positive tests for 2-3 weeks. Anywhere that achieves it is quarantined(green zoned) and can go back to business as usual ie no restrictions other then continued testing and can trade freely with any other areas that have achieved it. 14 day hotel Quarantine for anyone not coming from a green zone - interstate or international. It doesn't matter. Funny enough after New Zealand the next big economy that would probably meet the criteria would be direct flights from parts of China.

A tiered reopening is stupid - the second wave will take hold - then tighten restrictions, then loosen, then tighten for a indefinite time. Just suck it up, lock the country down eradicate the virus. Rip the band aid off then get back to work 100%.

From Dre

There currently are pax flights. Care to explain why you're so wide of the mark? Especially given all it took was a quick search.

He may be technically incorrect as NZ's borders are closed to all with a few exceptions: https://www.immigration.govt.nz/abou...and-exceptions

Just as Australia still has some international flights for repatriation etc, they / we do not have normal international pax flts per se.

United has daily service from San Fran to Sydney return. It's a regular scheduled flight.

And you point being....?

Who is getting on board that flight? No one, unless a citizen or resident returning (inbound) or someone on CRITICAL travel (outbound). See here: https://covid19.homeaffairs.gov.au/leaving-australia

You cannot leave the country as a citizen or resident, simple, the borders are closed. That flight may be regular or scheduled, but unless you meet set criteria you are not traveling on it and you won't be if it's for a holiday. No time soon for any flight overseas (except as has been mentioned in the media) for NORMAL travel i.e. holiday etc.

The point is a simple one. Dre in his effort to idolize all things China made a prediction. He was wrong, not something uncommon for him.

joyce just on channel 9 news saying domestic to return june & international in august. Am sure he's trying to get things moving

August what year? Did he just mean New Zealand or did he discover a vaccine?

Did you login to the wrong account TT738?

I see on radar24 that Chinese, Taiwanese, Korean and Japanese airlines still fly many routes daily to/from the USA. I guess there are quite a few (dual) citizens and green card holders around still to fly on those as that is the only category allowed entry these days for the most part. I don't know how full/empty those flights are though.

And THAT is the million $$ question - when will things get back to airlines operating flights with real passengers paying real money to go on real journeys for VFR/business/holidays whatever?

Subsidised flights, or flights just run for the sake of just running them is simply pissing in the wind if your alluding to commercial airlines operating commercially viable flights.

Cheers :ok:

Hopefully lots of belly cargo to at least help slow the bleeding.

Excxfo,

My point being that a previous poster said only repatriation flights were going to the USA. Then another poster said the flights were empty anyway.

Well tonight SFO-SYD has 105 pax. Not great but not insignificant either. They also have a full belly of cargo. The flight will most likely break even.