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Mildura Rednecks wreck our fair go reputation
Bad news travels fast. Mildura police need to stop these bogans once and for all. Pity the unsuspecting students copping this racist attitudes by a few redneck idiots.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-...adios/12181800 |
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Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10763419)
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Two “Wongs” don’t make a “White”! |
Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10763419)
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How the hell does a civillian aircraft cunducting flight training IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM have similarities to anything going on the the South china Sea.
I am in no way condoning what china are doing there but ffs, lasering training aircraft is somehow tit for tat ok because they have chinese students? |
When you've got bogan idols like Clive Palmer and bogan rags like the Daily Mail stirring up nonsensical hate towards training of Chinese pilots it's no surprise things like this are going to happen. Just an extension of racist attacks against those of Asian appearance in Australia since the media decided to fear-monger over coronavirus.
It's no wonder the Chinese don't just totally withdraw investment in Australian aviation given the nonsense they're being subjected to by the locals. They should be courted. They (and some other foreign owned companies) are the only ones putting money into Australian GA. I wonder how many Aussies (most of them quite young and new in their careers) are kept employed because of instructing Chinese students? No Australian seems to want to invest in GA. Could anyone look a newly graduated Grade 3 Instructor in the eye and tell them they're being made redundant because they shouldn't be training Chinese pilots in this country? |
Well, I've exercised my free choice and now only buy Chiko Rolls in lieu of Spling Lolls!.
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Ah, where would the Green Left be without the ABC to alert them of the latest bogan ‘atrocity’.
No racism, hatred or bigotry in the inner-city, no sir. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 10763459)
When you've got bogan idols like Clive Palmer and bogan rags like the Daily Mail stirring up nonsensical hate towards training of Chinese pilots it's no surprise things like this are going to happen. Just an extension of racist attacks against those of Asian appearance in Australia since the media decided to fear-monger over coronavirus.
It's no wonder the Chinese don't just totally withdraw investment in Australian aviation given the nonsense they're being subjected to by the locals. They should be courted. They (and some other foreign owned companies) are the only ones putting money into Australian GA. I wonder how many Aussies (most of them quite young and new in their careers) are kept employed because of instructing Chinese students? No Australian seems to want to invest in GA. Could anyone look a newly graduated Grade 3 Instructor in the eye and tell them they're being made redundant because they shouldn't be training Chinese pilots in this country? Michael West Media is another one jumping on this bandwagon as well. Now that CAE appear to be ceasing operations at Tamworth due to Coronavirus we will see the sort of impact these flying schools (read Chinese investment) have on a regional towns (and the overall economy). |
The trouble is that you have to get out of bed very early to make sure you don’t get screwed by overseas investors.
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I never imagined a CEO could also be a “Mayor” in the same sitting. Hmmmm? Wouldn’t there be a conflict of interest here? Potential for subterfuge. I would like to hear from the students. Get the allegations first hand.
If there was withdrawal of Chinese students or reduction (local economic downturn) as a result of the virus, wouldn’t it be better to blame alleged local racists as apposed to a world pandemic? Just thinking out loud. |
What ever happened to the airport CEO, the ‘Garden Gnome’ Bill Burke? He is normally a very loud and proud control freak of his airport. I believe he snuck out the door quietly not too long ago. Maybe working for a Chinese consortium?
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We need to stamp out the racism. As we need mainland Chinese investment and capital so our economy isn't crippled and we can spend money on expensive American defence equipment so some can live their fantasy that we will have to fight them.
But really, bogans are a national tragedy. A failure of our opportunities and education |
And, a question.......
Did the affected aircraft have 'Aussie' or 'Chinese' instructors aboard? Just curious is all....... Cheers |
Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO
(Post 10764410)
And, a question.......
Did the affected aircraft have 'Aussie' or 'Chinese' instructors aboard? Just curious is all....... Cheers |
Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
(Post 10764450)
Oh really? I thought harmless, larrikin bogans are part of the very "fair go" culture in the thread topic. Maaaaate… they're quintessentially Aussie, like vegemite, ANZACs and Dawn Fraser.
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them. I didn't know bogans understood VHF radios. Given they know the frequencies, understand single duplex jamming and have radios these "rednecks" might in fact be your winged brethren voicing their patriotic beliefs. Depending on how things turn out (unlikely) you might be eating your words in the future as a collaborator! I do not condone lasing aircraft........... but I've been lased flying into third world places plenty of times and it's no big deal. You see it coming and have time to look away. Report it to the tower for the benefit of those behind and move on. These laser pointers are 'blink safe' at close range and do nothing other than distract at longer ranges. And it's probably good training for these Chinese pilots given the places they will eventually fly to! The bigger safety hazard would be the constant and overpowering fetid stench of rotting fish in unflossed teeth being breathed in close confines. |
Muttley Crew and SOPS. Ditto :ok:
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What Muttley Crew said!:ok:
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Third world? Hell, I've been lasered on final into Heathrow.
Oh. Hang on. I see what l have done there. halas |
Redneck
Pointing a laser towards an aircraft is an offense! In case you didn’t know that Muttey Crew.
Looks like there are Rednecks everywhere amongst us. Grow up and argue fairly. |
Originally Posted by currawong
(Post 10763419)
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Boo hoo! You guys are amazing, sounds like most have never been north of the Murray. Racism!..this will be like water off a Peking ducks back. I spent 20 years living in China, I can tell you about racism, this is laughable.
Yes, this is a country of bogans, always has been, always will be. Just look at what we watch on TV or who we hold up as heroes. What is more offensive are those who see themselves as better than your average bogan. And this myth about having a reputation of giving others a "fair go", dream on. |
Originally Posted by Eagle Eye 9
(Post 10764524)
Pointing a laser towards an aircraft is an offense! In case you didn’t know that Muttey Crew.
Looks like there are Rednecks everywhere amongst us. Grow up and argue fairly. |
Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
(Post 10764450)
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them.
In an Aviation context I'd gather a large proportion of flying training is conducted for Chinese students. Their aviation market is growing, and will continue to grow in the long term post Corona. A lot of Flying Instructors are employed to train those Chinese students. If they pull their students out then a lot of Instructors will be made redundant. So I'll repeat my question from earlier in this thread: Is anyone here prepared to look a young flying instructor in the eye and tell them they should lose their job because they personally don't want Chinese trainee pilots in the country? |
Originally Posted by Octane
(Post 10764605)
Can you use someones own laser to designate them as a target? Maybe a lockon would make them think :-)
However state players (of which both parties here were signatories) are bound by the UN 1980 Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons/ 1995 Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons. http://www.weaponslaw.org/instrument...ional-weapons/ Blinding laser weapons | Weapons Law Encyclopedia Bogans will be bogans, sometimes the problem can be alleviated with jail time. State players that have promised not to, but do it anyway, are a different animal. |
Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
(Post 10764450)
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them.
The Chinese kids learning circuits and bumps in Mildura have ZERO to do with government policy from Beijing, trade, investment. Its sad the idiots abusing them dont spend the time studying up on global economics and neo liberalism, they may learn who the real enemy is. |
Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
(Post 10764915)
I'm glad we're all agreed on gettting rid of their investment in this country. We don't need it or them. It might hurt a bit... for a while. But we'll live.
For the record I don’t agree with getting rid of Chinese investment or trade at all. With a recession looming Australia will need it to survive. |
It’s worth noting that of the first 56 cases, 14 came from China, 42 from the USA.
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Without China, Australia is knackered. And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while. The flying training schools churning out foreign pilots remind me of the folly of allowing exports of herd cattle to China. Short term gain in return for a business grave in the long term. |
Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
(Post 10764450)
Oh really? I thought harmless, larrikin bogans are part of the very "fair go" culture in the thread topic. Maaaaate… they're quintessentially Aussie, like vegemite, ANZACs and Dawn Fraser.
I'd be quite happy to see the Chinese pull all their money (and virus) out and hand back the farms, dairies, infrastructure, etc the short term thinkers here have sold them. I didn't know bogans understood VHF radios. Given they know the frequencies, understand single duplex jamming and have radios these "rednecks" might in fact be your winged brethren voicing their patriotic beliefs. Depending on how things turn out (unlikely) you might be eating your words in the future as a collaborator! The bigger safety hazard would be the constant and overpowering fetid stench of rotting fish in unflossed teeth being breathed in close confines. Nothing cute about heckling, racist bogans. And by the looks of your post you have close family associations with them. Trouble is, the future will require smart Australians, to secure and grow our economy, as well as negotiating and working within complex national defence pacts with new allies as the rise of China goes who knows where? Our traditional western military reliances are not enough. Our new allies, trading partners, investors in our economy and tourists who fall in love with our country, will be persons of colour. Our traditional western military reliances are not enough. Racist bogans will need to wake up to these realities and generate a genuine patriotism. Otherwise their kids will be the white trash of Asia too. And don't pull the ANZAC crap. It's a bit like Godwin's law on feverish debates of anything Australian. Sure know plenty who fought who wouldn't be proud of racist bogans who heckle the vulnerable and who feel painting their face and running around, draped in the Australian flag, once a year, constitutes an unquestionable patriotism. |
Came for the casual racism, stayed for the insightful analysis.
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Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 10765388)
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while. Are you suggesting we should be self sufficient from China or the global market place in general? If just China, why? When we were selling lots of cars to Saudi Arabia were you concerned that it was to a "dictatorship" also? What do you think the outcome would be were Australia to vote on withdrawing from trade with China? "Hand the flatscreen telly back and go out and start making flat screen telly's Trevor!" Wow, have we strayed a long way from the topic. |
Originally Posted by Lead Balloon
(Post 10765388)
Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
And before you say “it’s a fact”, it is, in fact, a choice made by a few and thrust on the many. It may be that the many are willing to sacrifice self-sufficiency and instead rely on a communist dictatorship in return for ‘economic prosperity’, but the many weren’t asked. And despite the ‘economic prosperity’ the actual standard of living of the many in Australia has been going backwards for quite a while. The flying training schools churning out foreign pilots remind me of the folly of allowing exports of herd cattle to China. Short term gain in return for a business grave in the long term. In a decade, forecast trade with Indonesia and India will be significantly greater. Do we pull the pin with these guys because bogans don't like Asians or colours on our city streets? Do we not increase military cooperation with both those countries, or Japan for instance, as a counter to an aggressive China? China in some ways is trying to do what the Japanese navy could not do in 1942. Isolate Australia from a weakened America so its rise in the Pacific is unfettered. We will need a strong economy, as well as a sense of decency, beyond the ridiculous notion above of bogan fair go, to face the upcoming challenges. |
Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
(Post 10765389)
Trouble is, the future will require smart Australians, to secure and grow our economy, as well as negotiating and working within complex national defence pacts with new allies as the rise of China goes who knows where?
Lee Kwan Yew was right. Australians are the “poor white trash” of Asia. In an aviation context the one thing we can promote (basic flying training for foreign students) is attacked by locals afraid of the “Yellow menace” and populist politicians who claim these flying schools are a backdoor for a Chinese invasion. Media scaremongers about it and then politicians pander to those easily influenced by the scaremongering. |
Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
(Post 10765389)
Racist bogans will need to wake up to these realities and generate a genuine patriotism. Otherwise their kids will be the white trash of Asia too.
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I believe he/she was paraphrasing? Big difference.
Oh yeah, I'm with Lee. |
I agree, a choice made by the wealthy and powerful clique that run our country all in the name of cheap manufacturing. We were not consulted but make no mistake, we love to participate. Are you suggesting we should be self sufficient from China or the global market place in general? If just China, why? When we were selling lots of cars to Saudi Arabia were you concerned that it was to a "dictatorship" also? What do you think the outcome would be were Australia to vote on withdrawing from trade with China? "Hand the flatscreen telly back and go out and start making flat screen telly's Trevor!" |
China is our largest trading partner, ya can't just turn off a tap, go to bed wake up the following day and go about business as usual! We have dug a hole so deep in this matter that there is no way out!
Our way of life revolves around 'choice'! |
China could chose to ‘turn off the tap’. China’s long term plans are not implemented for the benefit of Australians.
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