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KRUSTY 34 30th Apr 2020 06:03

[QUOTE=SOPS;10767918]Twiggy is in the mix it seems.


Well, how does one make a small fortune out of aviation...?

MickG0105 30th Apr 2020 06:05


Originally Posted by Des Dimona (Post 10767856)
With limited cash and effectively no income, there isn't much time to sort this out.

What is their cash position? That's what I'd like to know.

You can rest assured that management bundled at least $30 million for Deloitte plus a million or so for exec team wages into the Captain's lifeboat before scarpering off to leave their trade creditors and landlords on the badly listing Costa YaShirt to fend for themselves. I guess we now have to wait weeks/months till the second creditors' meeting to see how low they ran the cash reserves before entering VA.

RodH 30th Apr 2020 06:51

Twiggy
 

Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10767861)
Another billionaire who likes to pretend he is in it ‘for the little people’, a supporter of the average Joe. More BS. Twiggy is in it for Twiggy. The way he set up the Government to take a slap from the Chinese Diplomat at a live news conference where a Minister was speaking shows the ego, pride and audacity of these tossers. Anyone who calls themselves ‘Twiggy’ has to be a jackoff. I have more respect for Gina, at least she lets you know she is in it for herself!

He probably has been called “twiggy” from when he was a kid.
I very much doubt if he gave himself the nickname “ twiggy”.
Very much an Australian thing to call someone with the name Forrest “twiggy”.

chookcooker 30th Apr 2020 07:17


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10767861)
Another billionaire who likes to pretend he is in it ‘for the little people’, a supporter of the average Joe. More BS. Twiggy is in it for Twiggy. The way he set up the Government to take a slap from the Chinese Diplomat at a live news conference where a Minister was speaking shows the ego, pride and audacity of these tossers. Anyone who calls themselves ‘Twiggy’ has to be a jackoff. I have more respect for Gina, at least she lets you know she is in it for herself!


good to see tall poppy syndrome is alive and well

MelbourneFlyer 30th Apr 2020 07:55

Maybe Twiggy can chum up with a state-owned Chinese airline to buy Virgin Australia. Anybody for 'China Very Southern' or 'Panda Air' ?

SOPS 30th Apr 2020 08:05


Originally Posted by Des Dimona (Post 10767856)
Today was just a formality - the business is a train wreck as long as COVID is around. With limited cash and effectively no income, there isn't much time to sort this out.


What I don’t understand why there is any interest at all? Airlines around the world are laying people and asking for government hand outs. I just can’t see the attraction.

SandyPalms 30th Apr 2020 08:15

Maybe that’s why Twiggy is going so crazy about the Australian sentiment towards China at the moment. He’s lined up Chinese money behind a tilt at VA.

flamingmoe 30th Apr 2020 08:23


Originally Posted by chookcooker (Post 10767989)
good to see tall poppy syndrome is alive and well

Took the words out of my mouth...disregard the man’s endless philanthropy, he’s a billionaire so he must be a prick right? Typical straaaayan attitude.

rattman 30th Apr 2020 10:33


Originally Posted by RodH (Post 10767969)
He probably has been called “twiggy” from when he was a kid.

John Andrew Henry Forrest

Paragraph377 30th Apr 2020 10:49


Originally Posted by chookcooker (Post 10767989)
good to see tall poppy syndrome is alive and well

Thank you chicken choker.

ULH Extreme 30th Apr 2020 10:58

Hey Sandy, After his little "Rat" attack last night, he has shown his reasons for Pro Chinese development, he wants to take Virgin with Chinese $. Fat chance now. .

chookcooker 30th Apr 2020 11:19


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10768193)
Thank you chicken choker.

ooh snap!!

it’s okay mate. I’m not rich, so no need to be jealous/bitter/twisted

Vref+5 30th Apr 2020 11:38

His forefather- John Forrest- was the first Premier of WA, so because he’s a young one off the family tree he is just a twig. Get it? Not a difficult concept, like”Junior “ , or “ Taddy”, or the myriad of other nicknames given to younger siblings

Paragraph377 30th Apr 2020 11:46


Originally Posted by chookcooker (Post 10768225)
ooh snap!!

it’s okay mate. I’m not rich, so no need to be jealous/bitter/twisted

Oh dear, you thought that was a snap?! My my aren’t you a conceited one. Ummm, I don’t think so mate. And I’m sorry to hear that you’re not rich. Aviation has looked after me rather well !!

Chadzat 30th Apr 2020 11:54

Shame it did nothing for your personality!

TCAS v2 30th Apr 2020 12:02

Back to the topic - there may be an interest by Forrest in VARA and the WA operation, but I can't see the attraction for the complete entity. He's not the sort of guy who would stake an operation without a guaranteed return.

It needs to be remembered that all the so called "interested parties" are just that and they will only be looking at a debt free start up using some of the assets of the carcass. So the debt has to disappear and that can only occur if the company is somehow wound up. No one is going to take a 100% haircut if the losses can be reduced to a lesser value by stopping the cash outflow now.

das Uber Soldat 30th Apr 2020 12:10


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10768257)
Oh dear, you thought that was a snap?! My my aren’t you a conceited one. Ummm, I don’t think so mate. And I’m sorry to hear that you’re not rich. Aviation has looked after me rather well !!

This account has to be some kind of elaborate troll account. Nobody not not heavily on the spectrum is this self unaware.

Paragraph377 30th Apr 2020 12:41


Originally Posted by das Uber Soldat (Post 10768281)
This account has to be some kind of elaborate troll account. Nobody not not heavily on the spectrum is this self unaware.

‘Elaborate’ is a big word for you to use das Uber Driver. Don’t go getting yourself all confused. Now, you and Chad go and find something productive to do like write down aircraft rego’s or send pen pal messages to Geoffrey Thomas.

das Uber Soldat 30th Apr 2020 13:25


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10768304)
‘Elaborate’ is a big word for you to use das Uber Driver. Don’t go getting yourself all confused. Now, you and Chad go and find something productive to do like write down aircraft rego’s or send pen pal messages to Geoffrey Thomas.

Yikes.

I think there is a village somewhere looking for you kiddo.








Paragraph377 30th Apr 2020 21:14


Originally Posted by TCAS v2 (Post 10768273)
Back to the topic - there may be an interest by Forrest in VARA and the WA operation, but I can't see the attraction for the complete entity. He's not the sort of guy who would stake an operation without a guaranteed return.

It needs to be remembered that all the so called "interested parties" are just that and they will only be looking at a debt free start up using some of the assets of the carcass. So the debt has to disappear and that can only occur if the company is somehow wound up. No one is going to take a 100% haircut if the losses can be reduced to a lesser value by stopping the cash outflow now.

Unless he wants to purchase a small portion of the company not because it makes loads of money, but to simply ensure that his mining interests are serviced by a regular FIFO service. Mining is and will remain his focus, not airlines. Smart man. As a hypothetical, he buys in, if the purchased chunk is big enough he gets a seat on the Board so that’s good. But what if it isn’t profitable? Does it matter? He loses say $50m per year in the airline but it keeps his mines operating which personally fills his pocket with hundreds of millions of dollars per year. Sounds good to me. Even better, he might break even on his invested component or even make a couple of bucks. But the methodology behind his buy-in is to keep his mines staffed and operating 24/7. That’s where the money is, mining. And that’s his motivation. That said, who cares what his motivation is, if it keeps Pilots in the air then that is a good thing.




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