I will only be gleeful if Normanton gets the arse. Every other S/O has my sympathy and support

Just not with your vote.

You sound like one of those names people see on the roster, and decide to head for the hills instead.

Yet in the other forum you said this...

I wont be agreeing to any pay cuts to save Normanton and other S/Os

Can you clarify this please? I’m confused

Standing down staff indefinitely is not in line with Fair Work I believe. Stand down is only for a short-term stoppage of work beyond a company's control, not a lengthy downturn resulting in a long-term reduced schedule. Items like job-sharing or voluntary redundancy should occur first to reduce the surplus, and then potentially forced redundancies. But I'm sure all avenues will be looked at first by the unions to secure as many jobs as possible.

How long is short-term? It's complicated. Potentially up to 2.5 years, the training freeze? It could be said retraining crew would be cost prohibitive if the plan is to have those crew back on their original aircraft within that freeze period.

Or if it involves circumstances beyond the control of the company, one could say the government travel restrictions to various countries are an example of that, and crew will be stood down until those restrictions are removed and prior passenger loads return.

That's the point. It won't be a time related stand down once a permanent fleet reduction adjustment is made. Qantas won't stand down employees while it mulls an aircraft order that isn't guaranteed whilst operating a smaller start-up international network based on weak global demand, as this is not the Fair Work definition for stand down. Who knows how it'll look. I was addressing the fact that to think everyone will be stood down indefinitely until a position is re-offered is unlikely based on the legislation. However, I do not know everything inside and out of course!

It’s all good, they have found some more work for the A380s...

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....75c59fb24.jpeg

Recent management statements indicate, beyond the already known to be departing 747s the rest of the fleet will basically remain intact for the forseeable future, so a similar number of crew flying them today will be needed to fly them in the short to mid term. And demand may pick up quite slowly, but then suddenly boom, so it's hard to make an accurate judgment of required crew numbers per fleet in the medium term.

How many management statements have proved accurate over the last 15 years?

Many many more than the countering opinions of the PPRune conspiracy theorists.