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rmcdonal 16th Apr 2020 15:21


Originally Posted by ifylofd (Post 10750672)
Your mortgage is no more important than one of theirs.

Those poor pilots with their multiple mortgages.

j3pipercub 17th Apr 2020 05:39

The irony of someone in the baby boomer generation having a go at a younger generation for 'never facing hardship' is absolutely delicious. News flash, neither have you. Your long meaningless lives must be such a disappointment to your parents generation, the truly 'great generation'.

j3

George Glass 17th Apr 2020 10:21

Actually j3 , you’re wrong.

-Black Monday 1987

- Pilot Dispute 1989

-Early 90’s recession

The last 27 years have been an aberration.
Anybody over 60 , particularly in aviation, HAS been through tough times.

das Uber Soldat 17th Apr 2020 10:26

Stand aside battle of Britain, the boomers had to fight the real war. 'The early 90s recession'.


Never was so much owed by so few to so many.



patty50 17th Apr 2020 10:36

Boomers always fall back on a few months paying 17% on their $75k houses. And the ever handy “I paid my taxes so I deserve it!!1!”

George Glass 17th Apr 2020 10:49

OK das , thats really hysterical.
Nothing in the last 75 years compares to WW2.
40% drop in share prices in 1987 wasn’t a joke. And you didn’t have to have shares to be hurt.
State Bank of Victoria
State Bank of SA
Pyramid Building Society
All failed.
Unemployment 11%
Government response overshot and led to interest rates 18%
Many families and businesses never recovered.
Not the Battle of Britain but I suggest you don’t joke about it in the presence of people hurt by it.

j3pipercub 17th Apr 2020 10:59

George

The next 5-10 years is going to make your little problems seem like a walk in the park. Cry me a river. Cry into the money you made in the last 27 year ‘aberration’ due to the policies your generational voting block ensured themselves whilst screwing all generations after them. Franking Credits, Negative Gearing, Salary Sacrificing to name a few.

So no mate, you’re wrong.

j3

Capt Fathom 17th Apr 2020 11:48

Just looked outside. I can’t see a full moon!

coaldemon 17th Apr 2020 11:59

If you don't understand Franking credits then no problem but essentially you shouldn't be taxed twice inside an Investment/ revenue stream.

For Salary sacrifice you are right it doesn't add much value really.

As for Negative gearing I expect that quite a few posters here found out the hard way in the last month how that magnifies losses far more than gains. Lot's of Margin calls talking to someone at Macquarie Bank.

There are a few areas you should be very wary about receiving and believing on the Flight Deck:
  1. Marriage Advice
  2. Investment Advice
  3. Taxation Advice
  4. Sexual Advice
It never ceased to amaze me about how Pilots are happy to impart their wisdom on marriage when they are on their third one or more. Seriously give it up....... As for the list it is up to you which one you think is #1


mohikan 17th Apr 2020 12:36

Some posters have become absent from both this forum and Qrewroom because having begged flight training for a job and pointed out how much they supported the last EBA Qantas agreed with them and they are still employed full time whilst other more senior pilots remain stood down.

Fonz121 17th Apr 2020 13:06


Originally Posted by mohikan (Post 10753134)
Some posters have become absent from both this forum and Qrewroom because having begged flight training for a job and pointed out how much they supported the last EBA Qantas agreed with them and they are still employed full time whilst other more senior pilots remain stood down.

Well that’s complete rubbish.

George Glass 17th Apr 2020 13:58

Yikes, j3, you’re so angry.
And you’re not even old enough to have done anything yet.
Or has life passed you by already ?

mattyj 17th Apr 2020 20:03

Most people on their third marriage give the same advice;

“don’t ever get married “

maggot 17th Apr 2020 22:49


Originally Posted by mattyj (Post 10753556)
Most people of their third marriage give the same advice;

“don’t ever get married “

I find them perplexed how all their wives turned out to be total bitches yet they're immaculate.

normanton 17th Apr 2020 22:51

You know it's going to be an interesting flight when the 3rd marriage starts getting mentioned. I just cant wait for the financial talks to start. Which break are you on captain?

j3pipercub 17th Apr 2020 23:14

Ah George,

2 things

Firstly, I made a sweeping statement about your generation that you felt needed rebutting obviously. You stated I was wrong, I am merely replying to your response. I am not angry, you may be projecting.

Secondly, you know you've lost an argument when you have to resort to personal attacks about someone else.

You have a nice life now champ. I will not be engaging in debate with you directly anymore.

j3

JPJP 17th Apr 2020 23:15


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10748207)
You mean those on the gravy train should make a sacrifice for the junior pilots? Don't make me laugh!

They will argue they sacrificed enough in the EBA 10 vote. :hmm:

Sacrifice ?

Long before COVID and the threat of A350 outsourcing, you were salivating at the chance to vote for EBA 10. Putting every new SO at Qantas on the worst conditions ever seen on a LH EBA. You openly admitted that your motive was your timely promotion to F.O. After a long, long 2 years as an SO.

Wouldn't it be ironic, if the hobgoblin queen returned you to work on those new SO conditions, that you squealed so eagerly to vote for.

normanton 18th Apr 2020 00:01


Originally Posted by JPJP (Post 10753720)
Sacrifice ?

Long before COVID and the threat of A350 outsourcing, you were salivating at the chance to vote for EBA 10. Putting every new SO at Qantas on the worst conditions ever seen on a LH EBA. You openly admitted that your motive was your timely promotion to F.O. After a long, long 2 years as an SO.

Wouldn't it be ironic, if the hobgoblin queen returned you to work on those new SO conditions, that you squealed so eagerly to vote for.

They will never be hired onto the 380, so your argument is invalid.

They could have been put on the Virgin 777 SO pay. And you know what? They would have still been on a better deal then under a new entity.

My motive was to secure the flying. The same motive as AIPA. Perhaps you should follow the advice of your union leaders. 85% or your fellow colleagues did.

KRUSTY 34 18th Apr 2020 04:25


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 10753156)
Well that’s complete rubbish.

One would hope so?

Talking to a very senior F/O (at another airline), who has been stood down on no pay since this thing began. Other less senior F/O’s are still earning a wage flying on the limited services.

Crickets from the AFAP Reps on this one.

blow.n.gasket 18th Apr 2020 05:00


Talking to a very senior F/O (at another airline), who has been stood down on no pay since this thing began. Other less senior F/O’s are still earning a wage flying on the limited services.
You should know the answer to that one by now Krusty.
” It’s not what you know , but who you blow !”


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