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JetFixer 16th Apr 2020 18:29


Originally Posted by Paragraph377 (Post 10751429)
Never. People like IL Douche seem to be revered for some reason. It’s all about ‘the look’, look at me I was a CEO! Hardly makes a person credible. Some of the worlds biggest profile CEO’s are complete fu#kwits, but have the gift of the gab. Goes to show that you can stay with the one employer all your life, working your way from the mail room to the Board room and STILL be a completely useless moron.

The current president of the USA being a prime example.

Led Zeppelin 16th Apr 2020 20:44

Voluntary administration is the only way to clean the debt book and start again with a much smaller but low cost focused single aircraft type operation between capital cities and main regional centres

PoppaJo 16th Apr 2020 22:37

Sunrise reports two consortiums circling at the moment.

cloudsurfng 16th Apr 2020 22:53


Originally Posted by PoppaJo (Post 10752521)
Sunrise reports two consortiums circling at the moment.


Corporate raiders :bored:

Australopithecus 16th Apr 2020 22:54

Good. I hope that you guys end up in the hands of adult management with a cogent plan to run and grow your airline.

Fonz121 16th Apr 2020 23:05


And another thing: Where the F#@*K are the Greens. Not one mention in the last 4 weeks until I typed it in 14 words ago.

Hiding in there rabbit holes like they did during the bushfires. They stand for [email protected]#*K all and always have. They are
friggen cowards, wimps, useless waste of time and money and couldn't give a shizen about any of our jobs.
I've saying that for 20 years.
Wtf are you rambling about? If you’re a Virgin employee then The Greens are your friend more than the libs atm.


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Kiwiconehead 16th Apr 2020 23:21


Originally Posted by cloudsurfng (Post 10752533)
Corporate raiders :bored:

But what is there to raid? It's not like the near Qantas privatisation where there was oodles of cash and lovely things to siphon off.

B772 16th Apr 2020 23:24

Is closing Sydney Airport still a Greens policy ?. Nothing but Hippocrypts.

IsDon01 16th Apr 2020 23:39

The only true wilderness is between a greeny’s ears.

galdian 16th Apr 2020 23:42


Originally Posted by IsDon01 (Post 10752570)
The only true wilderness is between a greeny’s ears.

:D:D:D
ENCORE!

Icarus2001 17th Apr 2020 00:13


One Virgin source said it was not the company's preference to be taken over by "corporate raiders'' with little or no airline experience.

This is hilarious for two reasons. They have a board and CEO with no airline experience. When you are in distress you don't get "preference" who rescues you.

Sunfish 17th Apr 2020 00:14

‘’lifted from Facebook:

To all the people who don’t think Virgin Australia should get government assistance right now - take a look at what happens with an airline monopoly.

Currently Virgin Australia is operating on a very limited schedule of 6 days a week, one flight a day between Sydney and Melbourne. On Saturday there is no flight. Have a look at what Qantas is charging for a single sector between Sydney and Melbourne on a Saturday. When Virgin flys the price is $155 one way, when it doesn’t fly it’s $753 one way.

We need at least 2 airlines in Australia. Please be mindful of the devastating effect the collapse of Virgin would have on Australian travel and tourism.

SandyPalms 17th Apr 2020 00:19

Thanks Sunfish. No better source than some random from Facebook. I guess it’s settled then.

mostlytossas 17th Apr 2020 00:45

I'm not convinced with the argument that without Virgin air fares would go through the roof on the long term. I am old enough to remember the old days with TAA and Ansett with their cosy relationship along with APEX fares etc.
Back then if airfares were too high you made alternative arrangements to travel if on leisure,which is the bulk of travelers today. You allowed a couple of extra days to drive or catch a train or bus. There was no internet for video conferencing for business meetings.
Today is much different. Business travel is often able to be avoided. As for leisure travel if airfares go too high people will find other means. The low airfares have killed off train and bus travel. You can no longer catch a bus from Adelaide to Perth as Greyhound etc cannot compete with Jetstar and the like. Same with the Overlander train Adelaide to Melbourne only runs a couple of days a week. All other states are similar. Now if airfares were to skyrocket as suggested these modes of transport would become more frequent as they would be profitable again.
Would Qantas allow this to continue flying around with half empty aircraft and losing market share? I think not, as not a good business model.
In addition if airfares go too high that would entice other entrants into the market to cash in on the opportunity to grab the low end leisure travel.
Don't get confused with what is happening right now. Most of the flights during this pandemic are half full at best hence pushing up the price. Can't see that happening on the long term.

normanton 17th Apr 2020 00:46

Sunfish are you aware how ticket price tiers work?

rattman 17th Apr 2020 00:51


Originally Posted by SandyPalms (Post 10752589)
Thanks Sunfish. No better source than some random from Facebook. I guess it’s settled then.

Yep if only there was website that takes all the flight cost and amalagamtes into one place so you can see all the cost of all flights on what ever day you want. Someone should make it and call it I dunno Webjet sounds like a cool name

In reality the Virgin flight is $179, the jetstar flight 45 minutes later is a $140 and the qantas flight of the day at 9am is $199


Blueskymine 17th Apr 2020 01:11

Fake news

After actually logging into the booking sites.

Qantas Saturday and Sunday one way $199
Virgin Sunday $169
Jetstar From Tuesday $79

How about you get over the whole Ansett thing and realise Qantas isn’t/wasn’t around to save you.


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10752586)
‘’lifted from Facebook:

To all the people who don’t think Virgin Australia should get government assistance right now - take a look at what happens with an airline monopoly.

Currently Virgin Australia is operating on a very limited schedule of 6 days a week, one flight a day between Sydney and Melbourne. On Saturday there is no flight. Have a look at what Qantas is charging for a single sector between Sydney and Melbourne on a Saturday. When Virgin flys the price is $155 one way, when it doesn’t fly it’s $753 one way.

We need at least 2 airlines in Australia. Please be mindful of the devastating effect the collapse of Virgin would have on Australian travel and tourism.


Buster Hyman 17th Apr 2020 01:25

‘lifted from Facebook'...is about as relevant as quoting the Greens from Twitter! :}

normanton 17th Apr 2020 02:00


Originally Posted by Buster Hyman (Post 10752619)
‘lifted from Facebook'...is about as relevant as quoting the Greens from Twitter! :}

Right up there with chooks Alan Jones quote!

CamelSquadron 17th Apr 2020 02:03


Originally Posted by Sunfish (Post 10752586)
‘’lifted from Facebook:

To all the people who don’t think Virgin Australia should get government assistance right now - take a look at what happens with an airline monopoly.

Currently Virgin Australia is operating on a very limited schedule of 6 days a week, one flight a day between Sydney and Melbourne. On Saturday there is no flight. Have a look at what Qantas is charging for a single sector between Sydney and Melbourne on a Saturday. When Virgin flys the price is $155 one way, when it doesn’t fly it’s $753 one way.

We need at least 2 airlines in Australia. Please be mindful of the devastating effect the collapse of Virgin would have on Australian travel and tourism.

Sunfish, its so obvious your just a Virgin Angel, paid to post pro Virgin commentary. Now your quoting from your favorite social media platform......and your facts are completely discredited by others......You should just slip back into the depths of the ocean and forget about your career as an Angel...

<insert lots of wikipedia information about how corporate's use paid angels to influence public sentiment>

Oh the irony of this!!!!

BTW I dont think your an Angel but its what you have spent several years of very aggressively accusing anyone else who has posted anything that contrary to your "anti QF" opinion in this forum.....

You have shown your hand - your are a VA apologist.


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