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Ken Borough 25th Mar 2020 03:20

A DEBATE THAT MUST BE HAD
 
This is a good read and offers some challenging views!

https://www.michaelwest.com.au/the-c...-shareholders/

spektrum 25th Mar 2020 03:22

Not one more cent. Not even one.

Led Zeppelin 25th Mar 2020 03:42

Snouts in the trough - Lobbying beyond belief and all designed to be hidden from the masses.


Australopithecus 25th Mar 2020 04:02

Let it go bankrupt, nationalise it and save the employees. Owners and managers can shove off.

I seriously want the government to help all employees nationwide, but there has to be a harsh quid pro quo for executives...no bonuses for ten years or until any aid is repaid. No share buy-backs ever again. Etc.

neville_nobody 25th Mar 2020 04:13

The author's point is irrelevant. QF have exactly the same private lounge setup. The question for the government is, do they want 10 000+ people made unemployed and have an entire country beholden to QF if it comes down to some form of Government Support?

The only solution to the ensuing monopoly will be to declare Open Skies. However if you hold a Chairman's Lounge Membership will you be really willing to vote for Open Skies domestically?

Pinky the pilot 25th Mar 2020 04:15


Let it go bankrupt, nationalise it and save the employees. Owners and managers can shove off.

I seriously want the government to help all employees nationwide, but there has to be a harsh quid pro quo for executives...no bonuses for ten years or until any aid is repaid. No share buy-backs ever again. Etc.
Well put, Australopithecus. :ok:

The Bullwinkle 25th Mar 2020 04:23


The author's point is irrelevant. QF have exactly the same private lounge setup.
Of course they do. Where do you think JB got the idea from?

Australopithecus 25th Mar 2020 04:38

Yeah, lounges are another thing. In what ethical universe is it ok for politicians to accept largesse from an entity under their legislative control? I once operated a xmas flight to HNL with the then transport minister travelling with his family FOC. At least other countries have the decency to hide their corruption with a bit of flair. Ours are just pigs at the trough.

Berealgetreal 25th Mar 2020 04:43

Alan Joyce and PR machine in full flight. 8000 got laid off today boys get the champagne out. Go on.

Colonel_Klink 25th Mar 2020 04:54

This ‘journalist’ has written a number of articles critical of Virgin.

Is he a member of the Chairman’s Lounge at QF?

machtuk 25th Mar 2020 05:01

The landscape just changed for Virgin/Tigers today!

Oriana 25th Mar 2020 05:19


Originally Posted by Colonel_Klink (Post 10727275)
This ‘journalist’ has written a number of articles critical of Virgin.

Is he a member of the Chairman’s Lounge at QF?

I doubt it. he has been calling out Qantas as tax dodgers for years.

At the end of the day, we REALLY need a Federal ICAC to stamp out soft AND hard corruption, because, it ain't just airlines.

AND - we need to seriously curtail the government/business revolving door, address 'lobbying' and take the money out of politics.

Maybe after all this corona stuff is over, we can all take a good long look at ourselves, our society and governance, and work out a new social deal.

Berealgetreal 25th Mar 2020 05:25

I don’t SA was part of that group. Straight shooter from what I’ve seen.

First step is an enquiry into 2010-18.

On the topic of the club there was a rumor getting about that it had no budget during the build.

normanton 25th Mar 2020 05:47


Originally Posted by Berealgetreal (Post 10727271)
Alan Joyce and PR machine in full flight. 8000 got laid off today boys get the champagne out. Go on.

They weren't laid off. Get your facts straight.

Berealgetreal 25th Mar 2020 05:50


Originally Posted by normanton (Post 10727304)
They weren't laid off. Get your facts straight.

Bit touchy there.

Celebrate nonetheless, one step close to monopoly.

George Glass 25th Mar 2020 05:50

machtuk, crawl back under your rock.

normanton 25th Mar 2020 05:52


Originally Posted by Berealgetreal (Post 10727306)
Bit touchy there.

Celebrate nonetheless, one step close to monopoly.

No I will not celebrate at all. I have many good friends at VA. Take your disgusting attitude elsewhere.

tartan_penguin 25th Mar 2020 05:53

What a joke of an article. Someone sounds pissed off he didn't get an invite.

machtuk 25th Mar 2020 06:03


Originally Posted by George Glass (Post 10727307)
machtuk, crawl back under your rock.

gee you are an angry little man aren't you?

George Glass 25th Mar 2020 06:17

machtuk , you contribute nothing.
It is not possible to exaggerate this seriousness of this situation for employees at Qantas , Virgin and many others in the aviation industry.
A level of gravitas is required when commenting. Something you lack.
Go away.


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