JQ563 BNE-MEL 13/01/20
 

JQ563 BNE-MEL (ETA 12:20) today diverted to AVV “to onload fuel” due to excessive delay into MEL.
Pax and baggage were offloaded and bussed to Tullamarine, arrived 3:45pm. But empty aircraft was ferried to MEL arrived 2:14pm. Anyone know why pax couldn’t go in the plane?

I can't comment on this flight, but in my outfit it's not unsual for the cabin crew to run out of hours in a disrupt. Solution is usually to ferry the aircraft empty.

Have a think about some of the weight limitations on a very short flight sector.
CC

A321 full load such a short hop would be interesting to see some performance numbers vs empty. Where would a diversion point be? LST? ADL?

Emirates recently did a AVV-MEL hop A380. But in saying that, by the time they re fuel and gain a new landing time due delays, and it’s Melbourne so could be anything from 1-3 hours, it’s probably better to just get rid of the pax rather than keeping them onboard for near 2 hours.

Crew hours should not be much of an issue here, this specific duty appears to have a sign on at 6am.

This aircraft was being used in and out of Sydney tonight and it’s on the last 10pm out so they don’t have much leeway if they are behind.

It’s MEL, basketcase of additional 1 hour holding should be mandated in the CAR’s just for this pathetic airport.

I have thought about it. What do you mean exactly? Landing weight would be the only limiting weight- how is this different to any other sector CC?

This.. Anyone arriving into Melbourne without a minimum of 40 minutes traffic (on a good wx, 2 runway day) needs their head examined.
Can't imagine any JQ pilot wanting to skimp on fuel at the moment either :}

Both a QF and JQ had a fuel related turn back for Sydney in the space of 5 minutes yesterday afternoon. JQ maybe fair enough as they were International, but the QF was a syd-mel and the NOTAM was there all morning.

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As did Qantas following a windshear warning and diversion from Melbourne a few months ago.
I'm not sure if they kept the punters onboard or sent them by bus to Tulla; the former I suspect due to Customs and Immigration requirements.

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the more diversions the better, will bring it to a head at the airlines - perhaps their bottom line will be able to drive some reform to this comically broken system.

Would the crew be doing landing checklists for YMEL before takeoff?

Sunfish,
To answer to your question, no, plenty of time in the holding pattern.

If that was the 787 then no they held them onboard.

Never seen anyone else offload at Avalon aside the star.

Virgin now has swissport at Avalon so can offload if need be.

Punters stayed onboard for that one.

I’ve had a good think about it. Can’t see a single issue.
What was your point?

This was obviously a sarcastic question!!!

Neither can I, they clearly don’t know what they’re talking about :ugh:

CC- I’m guessing spotter vs operator. Some of the stuff that gets made up on the spot on this site... 🤦🏼‍♂️3000hrs 320/321 and I’m pretty sure I would have found out about these “weight limitations on short sectors” that CC speaks of by now!

Deceased mate of mine (Max) claimed the shortest jet flight record - repositioning a TAA B727 from YMEN to YMMB when it opened. He alleges they indeed did their landing checks before takeoff.

YMML I hope! :) If not, I'd love to have been at Moorabbin when that happened.

26 Essendon to 34 Tulla would have been fun in a 72.