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Originally Posted by leakyboats
(Post 10389457)
Message to Dean
A 50% pay rise puts my wage just north of $200,000. Have a look at what they pay widebody first officers over at VA and QF. While you’re at it, have a look at how many days off they get in comparison. If you think my union is being unreasonable, you need to have a hard look outside your head office bubble and visit the coalface. You can jam 3% Can't put it any better than that ... :D |
Good luck to the AFAP, other representatives and all Jetstar pilots. Many decent conditions in contracts around the globe only arose from those that stood up and negotiated well. If you gave away in good times and bad you’d eventually have nothing. The Group is exceptionally profitable. Plenty of bonuses for Alan and co the last few years. Just hope your AFAP president doesn’t do a sh&$# deal for pilots, then switch teams and work for Jetstar negotiations against you. Don’t be weak like AIPA, fall for false threats and negotiate deals that go backwards from those hard fought and won. Every pilot group gains when we improve everyone’s contracts. Good luck guys and gals. |
Why are JQ Pilots members of AIPA anyway?
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 10390234)
Why are JQ Pilots members of AIPA anyway?
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Both Tiger and Jetstar pilots look to be going down the path Ryanair pilots went down last year. Maybe the game is up. Mate of mine works at JQ said he couldn’t possibly continue working there til 60, max hours all the time he’s exhausted and quite frankly looks f$$#d. Out of our group of friends he’s aged the most.
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Originally Posted by Berealgetreal
(Post 10390428)
Both Tiger and Jetstar pilots look to be going down the path Ryanair pilots went down last year. Maybe the game is up. Mate of mine works at JQ said he couldn’t possibly continue working there til 60, max hours all the time he’s exhausted and quite frankly looks f$$#d. Out of our group of friends he’s aged the most.
However it’s different doing a few years of intense flying when your younger. But what happens if you have 10,15,20 years of it? What if you are 50? Or 60? Its culmulative. What if you fly a lot of night sectors back of the clock, jetlag, early starts . You can’t make money or promotions a substitute for health. Yes they matter but health is just as important. |
Originally Posted by FightDeck
(Post 10390447)
Exactly. The promotion is lovely as is the shiny new toy. However it’s different doing a few years of intense flying when your younger. But what happens if you have 10,15,20 years of it? What if you are 50? Or 60? Its culmulative. What if you fly a lot of night sectors back of the clock, jetlag, early starts . You can’t make money or promotions a substitute for health. Yes they matter but health is just as important. Well said but not appreciated by many. |
I see this being a big one as Uncle Alan isn’t accustomed to not getting his way on one end and on the other the JQ guys I know feel they’ve got nothing to lose.
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“When backed into a corner, a victim has two options: he can lie down and die, or, he can fight regardless of the odds.” ― Marc Schiller, Pain and Gain - The Untold True Story |
Yea right, Jetstar won’t be afraid of this, the pilot group is fractured and will never show any solidarity in the pursuit of a common goal. |
Exactly Ollie , why do you think we have this Qantas HR/IR driven , fractured tribalisation of the pilot groups ? Not to mention the management sponsored 5 columnists seeded into the representative industrial bodies designed to obstificate solidarity ! |
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